Accuracy question???

[csmsss]

You can't shoot 1/2 minute angle groups from a 3 minute rifle.

You can if you're only shooting one shot groups, which is pretty much what you're doing in the field.

Group sizes tell you just one thing and one thing only - how the rifle performs when its barrel gradually heats up. Since most field shots are taken with a cold bore, the importance of group sizes is greatly exaggerated unless that group size is measured with a cold bore for each shot.

 

[jimbob86]

you're telling me that a world-class marksman can make a rifle/ammo combination that's only capable of 4 minute accuracy shoot minute of angle because he's "competent"???

No, I'm telling you a world class marksman can make a 4MOA rifle/ammo combination (as shot from a bench) shoot 4MOA from field positions because he's competent. He can shoot that gun as well as it can be shot. He could also do the same thing with a 1/2 minute rifle. That's excellence, and it is a rare thing.

This country is awash in 1MOA rifles carried by folks that can't hit a gallon milk jug (roughly 6"x9") at 300 yards without a bench and some sandbags..... you see these folks out deer hunting with bipods and even tripods, ridiculously high magnification scopes ..... Guys who put several thousands of dollars into their gear, and still can't shoot, because they think that moonscope and the tack driving rifle will make up for their inability to hold steady and squeeze the trigger when it matters.

 

[ronl]

I have a friend who has set many world records and this is the story he told me. He was at one competition and some guy there asked what it would take to get into the benchrest shooting world. One man told the guy to go talk to a person who for 3-4 thousand would build him a gun. Then he told the man to go talk to another man who for a few thousand would set him up with great optics. My friend called BS and proceeded to set up a rifle for $1300 total(including optics) with which he proceeded to set an aggregate match record. It is more about the man behind the machine, than the machine itself.

 

[MythBuster]

"This country is awash in 1MOA rifles carried by folks that can't hit a gallon milk jug (roughly 6"x9") at 300 yards without a bench and some sandbags....."

I know plenty who could not do it at 100 yards and I also know a guy with a worn out Turk Mauser that can do it about 99% of the time.

 

[Art Eatman]

Lotsa repetition, little additive info...