So my point is everyone saying 9mm for compasity if you put 7 rounds in someone and they still keep coming wouldn't you rather have a 45 cal and just use less builts to put him down.
If you poke around, you can find incidents where people have been shot multiple times with virtually any pistol caliber and still not stopped.
Old Bill Dibble provides a link with one incident where an undercover officer was shot 8 times with a .45ACP and survived.
Here's another incident where it took 14 hits from a .45ACP to end a criminal attack on a police officer. The criminal continued shooting until the last couple of hits which were to the brain. That means that he absorbed 10-12 rounds of .45ACP and was still fighting when a bullet to the brain shut him down.
http://www.personaldefenseworld.com/2014/10/5-gunfighting-myths-debunked-massad-ayoob/
During that time, Gramins had fired 33 rounds from his Glock 21 pistol...and hit his opponent 14 times with 230-grain Gold Dot .45 bullets. Six of those hits were in what most of us would call “vital zones,” but the fight wasn’t over until Gramin finally had the opportunity for brain shots.
Back years ago the .38 spl in the Phillipines was deemed underpowered because it didn't have the knockdown power to stop warriors wrapped in burlap and wire. Well, the 9MM is just another 38. The military went to .45 ACP to take care of this problem and it did.
The .38 in the Philippines was the .38 Long Colt, a black powder round that fired a 125 or 150 gr bullet at around 770-780fps. Pretty anemic compared to the 9mm--in fact, energy levels are quite a bit lower than what is available in .380ACP.
The military switched back to the .45Colt, not the .45ACP due to reports of problems with the .38 Long Colt. It wasn't until some years later the .45ACP was developed and adopted, after the Moro rebellion had ended.
Finally, the fact is that pretty much everything (except perhaps 12ga buckshot) was not as effective as desired against the Moros. Here's an incident of one Moro who soaked up
thirty-two .30 caliber rifle rounds before being killed by a pistol shot that hit his brain.
http://www.morolandhistory.com/related articles/legend of .45.htm
Singly, Hassan rushed the American line with only his barong, cutting up a soldier and two officers before being brought down. "It was determined that thirty-two Krag bullets hit Hassan before a last bullet from a sergeant's revolver [an old Peacemaker] plugged him dead between the eyes."
Cherry-picked incidents only tell us that bizarre things can happen in firefights. They don't give us a good picture of anything useful.
Here's a classic example. Garen Brenner, stopped a grizzly bear charge with two shots from a 9mm pistol firing FMJ rounds. After the bear went down, he killed it by shooting it in the head.
http://peninsulaclarion.com/stories/081902/ala_081602ala0040001.shtml
So does that cherry-picked incident tell us that 9mm FMJ is great medicine for grizzly bear charges? Hardly. It just proves that anything can happen and sometimes does.
Does the incident with the Moro who was shot 32 times with a rifle and kept on coming tell us that rifles are ineffective weapons? Not at all. It just proves that anything can happen and sometimes does.
