9mm revolvers ?

Because reloaders with revolvers don't have to chase their brass. They dump it into their collection container.
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Then it looks like 100% of revolver shooters are reloaders.

My point was if you're into reloading, and you shoot a 9mm, you'll have no shortage of free brass.
 
44 AMP said:
I do wonder, if 9mm from a revolver (snub nose only, apparently) is the bees knees, and the best thing since canned beer, sliced bread and girls who smell good, why did the 9mm Federal go bust???
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Because you couldn't shoot it in an autoloader like 9x19 can. The main reason tho was that 9mm Federal was, IIRC, only available in Charter Arms revolvers and when the company went out of business in the early 90s, there were so few revolvers available in 9mm Federal that Federal couldn't make a profit off making the ammo anymore, so they stopped.

Even if 9mm Federal lived on, the cost of ammo for it vs rimless 9mm would have made people complain they wanted to be able to shoot the cheaper rimless 9mm and eventually the cylinders would have been cut for moon clips anyway. So, right back to square one.

The fact is for almost every 9mm revolver (there may be some weird ones out there) a moon clip or and sort of clip is not required to shoot them. All it does is make reloading more straightforward.
 
Carmady said:
If you're a brass rat you'll probably find over a thousand 9mm casings for every .38 SPL.
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This is true. When I'm at any of the handgun ranges at my range, 9mm is the most common centerfire cartridge I see with .45 ACP being second and I rarely, RARELY ever see someone shooting a revolver. If they are, it's a .22.

When I'm at the range, I'll scour for .38/.357 and I have a very hard time finding it. 9mm? I could fill my truck with all the cases of that I see, but problem is it's not worth my time to reload it over more expensive calibers like .32 or .45.
 
TruthTellers said:
The fact is for almost every 9mm revolver (there may be some weird ones out there) a moon clip or and sort of clip is not required to shoot them. All it does is make reloading more straightforward.
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That's not true for S&W 9mm revolvers unless you're using 9x21 brass.

The ease of finding brass is irrelevant. Just don't loose you .38 Special/.357 brass and you'll be fine. You can buy 1,000 once fired .38 Special cases for $50 and be set for years.
 
reddog81 said:
That's not true for S&W 9mm revolvers unless you're using 9x21 brass.

The ease of finding brass is irrelevant. Just don't loose you .38 Special/.357 brass and you'll be fine. You can buy 1,000 once fired .38 Special cases for $50 and be set for years.
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Like I said, there may be weird ones and 9x21 revolvers aren't exactly common in the US. As for the brass, if you want to spend $50 on some once fired brass, that's fine, but if you don't want to pay anything for it, go to any shooting range and you'll have plenty of 9mm available. Could bang out a couple thousand rounds in a weekend on a progressive and not have to reload any for a revolver for months.
 
TruthTellers said:
Because you couldn't shoot it in an autoloader like 9x19 can. The main reason tho was that 9mm Federal was, IIRC, only available in Charter Arms revolvers and when the company went out of business in the early 90s, there were so few revolvers available in 9mm Federal that Federal couldn't make a profit off making the ammo anymore, so they stopped.



Even if 9mm Federal lived on, the cost of ammo for it vs rimless 9mm would have made people complain they wanted to be able to shoot the cheaper rimless 9mm and eventually the cylinders would have been cut for moon clips anyway. So, right back to square one.



The fact is for almost every 9mm revolver (there may be some weird ones out there) a moon clip or and sort of clip is not required to shoot them. All it does is make reloading more straightforward.
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Agreed...

Case in point, look at .45 AutoRim. I was going to pick up a few speedloaders, but not anywhere near being able to start reloading... and AutoRim ammo is PRICEY!

In my converted cylinder, I could should .38 Special out of it... just going to swell/stick. Don’t think a rimmed 9mm would be that appealing, especially being I don’t think there are J-frame speedloaders for it.
 
TruthTellers said:
As for the brass, if you want to spend $50 on some once fired brass, that's fine, but if you don't want to pay anything for it, go to any shooting range and you'll have plenty of 9mm available. Could bang out a couple thousand rounds in a weekend on a progressive and not have to reload any for a revolver for months.
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If you think spending $50 on brass is bad wait until you price how much the moonclips cost. Have you ever even shot a 9mm revolver?
 
I use Ranch moonclips.
About $1.25 apiece.
It takes about 5 minutes per clip to modify them to fit my TKC recessed cylinders.
 
The ease of finding brass is irrelevant. Just don't loose you .38 Special/.357 brass and you'll be fine. You can buy 1,000 once fired .38 Special cases for $50 and be set for years.
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That reply is irrelevant.
 
JimCunn said:
I use Ranch moonclips.
About $1.25 apiece.
It takes about 5 minutes per clip to modify them to fit my TKC recessed cylinders.
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The ranch clips work and are really cheap, but putting cases in and removing them is a PITA without a tool. I have to give Ruger credit for their moon clips and I've been meaning to see if cutting a slot down in the Ranch clips like where Ruger has them would improve them, but haven't found the time to do that.
 
"but putting cases in and removing them is a PITA without a tool"

True, but they are just as easy as the other brands.
I use a short 3/8" 12 point box end wrench as a tool.
Also, I hit the corners with a short burst of Dremel grinding wheel to make the hulls easier to insert and extract.
 
I use the BMT tool for my moonclips... costly, but no chance at all to bend them.

Got one in 9mm, and then the .45 for my Colt 1917 (and eventually a S&W 1917).
 
wild cat mccane said:
Perfect timing. Energy doesn't matter. According to Federal who makes 357 too.

https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/lucky-gunner-interviews-federal-cartridge-employees.1761712/
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From one poster:
For pistols:
- muzzle energy is meaningless
- penetration and expansion are all that count.
- caliber and speed is only important to the extent it affects penetration and expansion.
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Muzzle energy is not meaningless. If you had a bullet that had 300 ft/lbs and penetrated 15 inches and expanded 1.5 times the original diameter and you had another that was 600 ft/lbs, also penetrated 15 inches and expanded 1.5 times, you're releasing twice the energy in the same amount of space, so the transfer of the energy will be twice as much, which means larger stretch cavities.

If that wasn't the case, why then .357 has a higher rate of one shot stops vs 9mm?

https://www.buckeyefirearms.org/alternate-look-handgun-stopping-power
 
TruthTellers said:
From one poster:

Muzzle energy is not meaningless. If you had a bullet that had 300 ft/lbs and penetrated 15 inches and expanded 1.5 times the original diameter and you had another that was 600 ft/lbs, also penetrated 15 inches and expanded 1.5 times, you're releasing twice the energy in the same amount of space, so the transfer of the energy will be twice as much, which means larger stretch cavities.

If that wasn't the case, why then .357 has a higher rate of one shot stops vs 9mm?

https://www.buckeyefirearms.org/alternate-look-handgun-stopping-power
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Egads. Talk about cherry picking. And rather biased and blind.

That same link shows the 380 Auto has the same one shot stop percent (44%) as the 357. Kinda shoots your idea to hell, eh?
 
"you're releasing twice the energy in the same amount of space, so the transfer of the energy will be twice as much, which means larger stretch cavities".

Spot on.
 
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