TruthTellers
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No 9mm can top that, the question I have asked and no one seems capable of answering is how is 180 grain BB better for carrying in an LCR for EDC vs a 115 or 124 grain 9mm at 1100 fps?Round, round, round, here we go....
I already posted way back in this thread somewhere:
.357 BB 180 grain @ 1246, 1250 out of 1/7/8 LCR = 625 ft pounds muzzle energy.
No one yet has posted a 9mm that tops that.
Does it matter if the round is expensive or boutique or there is only one manufacturer that this hot a .357 is available? No, not really, because it means that is the highest potential out of a short barrel revolver with .357 blowing away the usual myth that .357 is neutered out of a short barrel. Will I shoot it all day, NO, but it is available and I have done it. I don't need to practice with it, I just need to know the difference in the point of impact. Am I worried about followup times? No, not with only five rounds I want to make every shot count. Anyways, the recoil is stout but the muzzle rise was not vertical, so the time difference is fractional.
If you really need to practice weekend after weekend with your carry loads, you better get some professional instruction on marksmanship! That's my answer to the excuse for cost of ammo!
This is my woods load, not my SD carry.
I suggest that instead of just googling, you get out to the range yourself with a chronograph. From your posts about your expertise, it sounds like you should be able to afford one.
Also, no one has produced any citations that firearm defense experts have recommended using .357 with bullets that weigh 158, 180, or 200 grains. When I read what guys like Mas Ayoob, Chuck Hawks, etc. say on .357, they say use 110-135 grain bullets and specifically to NOT use 158 or heavier bullets for self defense.
The question of whether .357 is more powerful than 9mm isn't in question as there are boutique loads that exceed 9mm, the question is what effect on target do those super .357 Mag do that 9mm doesn't in regards to self defense in a snub revolver in civilization. For a woods gun, the 180 grain BB is appropriate.