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I don,t understand all the negative talk about a cast frame in a world of plastic framed 45 with no frame failures. I would put a pistol that runs without issues as my first a biggest priority.
 
Another vote for the SA Range Officer. For the price, it's a very nice gun. I think I paid about $760 for mine about 3 or 4 years ago. I traded it in a few years later for a Colt, only because I always wanted a Colt.
 
I don,t understand all the negative talk about a cast frame in a world of plastic framed 45 with no frame failures. I would put a pistol that runs without issues as my first a biggest priority.
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Whether you think forged or barstock frames are better or not, they are much more expensive to make, so at certain price points you expect a non-cast frame.
At one time, Caspian was selling their 1911 frames in both cast and barstock form, and the latter cost twice as much as the former ($150 vs. $300)
You should expect a plastic-framed gun to be considerably cheaper than an all-steel gun for the same reason, whether you like plastic frames, or not.
 
At one time, American made meant that the entire product was made in America. If I have this right, now American made means that at least 50% of the product is made in America. So, in theory anyway, an American made 1911 could have foreign made parts.
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Per U.S. Customs laws, 51%.
 
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I'm not kidding junky weak plastic triggers you could easily break and plastic MSH's as well.
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LOL. Colt has been using plastic triggers and MSHs for 20 years or more. Those parts are very low stress and will probably outlast you, and have the added benefit of not rusting.

Nothing to do with Colt, but FN has been using plastic triggers and magazine catches on some of their pistols for over 40 years now.
 
Unless Colt has changed again, their triggers have a black aluminum shoe on a stainless bow.
They were using plastic triggers on the M1991A1, twenty years ago, but don't think they've used many plastic triggers since.
If a plastic MSH housing is good enough for a $2000 Kimber "Custom Shop" gun, they must be good enough for an $800 Colt?
The only plastic MSH I have in use is on my 10mm, so it seems plenty strong enough for a .45 or 9mm.
 
If you get a 9MM you can fire 38 Super by changing the barrels and magazine.
New or used ? I paid $200 for my Colt Mark IV in 1978, it's still going strong.
 
Ithica

Manufactured 100% right here in the USA at our factory in Upper Sandusky, OH. sorry but your wrong on that oone.
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You are right and I am wrong. Brain fart.

It is the Hi Standard that is made by Armscor.

My (CRS syndrome) bad.:D
 
If you get a 9MM you can fire 38 Super by changing the barrels and magazine.
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Not sure about that; If the 9mm breechface is milled to minimum specs, it may not accommodate the semi-rim of the .38 Super. No problems going the other way, though.
 
I think the bottom line here is, if you want American made and have a max $800.00 budget, then buy a Colt from Bud's Guns and don't nitpick it. It will last your lifetime and that of your kids as well. In spite of internet opinions, there is absolutely nothing wrong with a Series 80. The two small extra parts that actuate the firing pin block have virtually NO effect on the lockwork.

Some complain about Colt not putting beavertails or checkering or what have you on their guns, but (and this my own [as in me, myself and I] opinion) that's like putting flames, fender skirts and foxtails on your pickup truck

If you can get over the "American made" objection, then a Springfield Armory is an excellent choice.

If you want serviceable at a budget price, then look at the Armscors (Luzon) or Shooters Arms (from Cebu--slightly better than Armscor) for an inexpensive yet reliable gun.

Whatever you do, DON'T buy anything made in Turkey.
 
This particular stainless colt 1991 had a terrible trigger, I mean you could shake the gun and the trigger would rattle all around, and I could tell was not even polymer or glass filled nylon but felt like abs plastic or even weaker. The MSH also felt much junkier than my dad's kimbers. And the seller wanted $920!!

I personally wouldn't buy a 1911 from
Taurus
Remington
Auto ordnance
Para
Ruger (only because they don't offer all black and series 80)

I WOULD buy one from
Dan Wesson
Springfield
Colt
Kimber
Sig
Rock Island

Just inspect it before buying, any can have a lemon or flaw. Buy what tickles your fancy, most have good warranties
 
To the op question, I think that 45ACP is probably a good choice. I am too looking at a 1911 and have many thoughts on it. My needs are different from yours.
1911 was designed and was refined over the years as a 45. John Browning's masterpiece.
For less expensive shooting, I have a dedicated 9mm.

Originally I wanted a Kimber. Made here in NY. They have their own foundry on site, which I thought was a plus, but I am not sure their quality matches their price. I base that on searching for Kimber problems.

One of my priorities on my 1911 is the ability for it to accept the 22lr kit. I may never buy that kit, but I want the ability.

Ruger stands strongly behind their products, and I have had positive interactions with their customer service departments. I would not hesitate to buy a Ruger product. Their 1911 is a little higher in price that the 800 you wanted to spend. I suggest that you save a few dollars more, and allow yourself to expand your options. I realize that may take time, but a few hundred more will give you a life long top quality gun.

So, my thought is raise your price a hair, and buy 45 caliber over the 9mm.

Maybe rent at a range. I am not sure you will find a high end 1911 for rent, but it may help you make a better choice.

Enjoy the process of finding your arm. It is part of the fun!!

Rich
 
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