1911

Proz76,

What is the intended purpose of your gun?

One of the most accurate and completely reliable 1911's I've fired was a stock S&W 1911 that had an external extractor, which was Browning's original design. It was not S&W's initial model with the huge "1911" engraved on its slide. That was one sweet shooting 1911. And it fed every bullet design fed it w/o a single problem.

While I think that the 1911A1 chambered for the .45 ACP is the best battle handgun ever designed, I could be very happy with a Sig P-220. A stock P-220 is as accurate as any stock 1911. But if you have to have a 1911, a Sig P-220 won't work for you. However, if it's going to be a concealed carry gun, a Sig P-220 might be a better way for you to go. Many law enforcement agencies use the Sig P-220.
 
At one time, American made meant that the entire product was made in America. If I have this right, now American made means that at least 50% of the product is made in America. So, in theory anyway, an American made 1911 could have foreign made parts.
 
I bought a Springfield 1911 Range Officer 9mm when they were introduced, about $725. Took awhile to get it, but they seem to be plentiful these days. I had my local gunsmith do about $50 of trigger work, resulting in a really nice 1911. I haven't had it to the range since Sept.; it now has 2,000 rounds thru it. Never a hiccup. Really, really like it. It would get more use, but I've been crazy; over the years bought too many guns. It's hard to find time to shoot everything.:o

My 1911's: SIG .45ACP Target, SIG .45ACP MAXX, DW Guardian 9mm, STI Range Master 9mm. Also have the STI Match Master 9mm which is a double stack 1911; they refer to it as a 2011.

I shoot the Springfield as well as I shoot any of the others, except the 2011 Match Master. However, it comes with a CMore red dot sight, compensator, etc.; it's a different animal.

I fired my first 1911 about 70 years ago, military issue. Over 22 years in the military fired, qualified and carried several 1911's. Shot several friends' 1911's. For the money, the Springfield Range Officer has a lot going for it.
 
Gotta toss in another vote for the Springfield Range Officer...I don't own one but there are some very savvy people here and on other forums, all with a boatload of real world, target and street creds to back up their choice.

From my own experience, I'd say the Ruger SR1911 5" or CMD are first rate. Great features, and no 'mall ninja' crap, good to excellent product support and in my two, right at 100% reliability with factory ammo (I'm over 3500 rounds through the pair now). Accuracy in mine with good handloads, runs right at 2" at 25 yds...and padnuh, that's all these old eyes can still see. You can find them occasionally for $650 or so...

Rod
 
You believe wrong. All 1911's are made in the US.

Springfield Armory still resides in Genesco IL, which if you look at a map is still in the good 'ol US of A.

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If you read my reply, I was referring to Springfield Armory, in response to the post saying that they are made in Croatia and that Springfield is no longer a US company, and has closed their US facility.
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I stand corrected. To be honest all I was going off of was my Springfield Armory XD saying it was made in Croatia. I better not assume next time, eh? Haha.

Cheers!
 
Of all the 1911s I've dealt with, including many premium/custom brands, Colt has the best chance of working 100% out of the box. They just understand how to make guns that work.

The downside of Colt is that many are series 80 ignition systems, and they generally lack metalworking like dehorning, beavertails, and checkering that many other manufacturers include.
 
lamarw said:
It has always been made in the U.S.A. and was made in Ilion, NY prior to moving to Sweet Home Alabama.
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"Always" meaning what -- three or four years? I don't think Remington has been making 1911s any longer than that. (Discounting their WW1 production, of course.)

Have they learned how tio machine the frame bridge yet?
 
they generally lack metalworking like dehorning, beavertails, and checkering that many other manufacturers include.
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Did you start typing that in 1997, and just send it now? Colt has a very extensive line-up, including beavertails, checkering, adjustable sights, even "lowered ejection ports", if you can believe it.
Colts have generally been known for sharp edges, but I saw an interview with a Colt rep who said the number one reason for returns was rounded edges. Gotta give the customer what they want.
 
Proz76 said:
I hear a lot of good things about the new Para 1911 and they are now made in the USA. Anyone know more about them?
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You should have your hearing checked. Para is out of business. While nice ideas, Para guns often failed to deliver.

Now, I would check out Dan Wesson guns for great guns at a good price.
 
Red-5

You believe wrong. All 1911's are made in the US.

Springfield Armory still resides in Genesco IL, which if you look at a map is still in the good 'ol US of A.
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I just got up and took my Springfield Loaded 1911 out of my gun safe to see where it was made and it says right on the frame "Made in Brazil-IMBEL". The last time I checked Brazil is not in the USA. Right above the Made in Brazil it says "SI Geneseo IL USA".
 
Springfields with a "NM" serial number prefix are entirely U.S. made. Prior to that they sourced raw frames from Brazil (Imbel) and finished them in the U.S., qualifying them as "U.S. made" so they won't be marked "Made in Brazil".
 
Okay, I get it now. Basically looking for a decent, US made 1911 that will be good for the range and just general shooting.

I'd highly recommend you look at the Ruger SR1911. American made, great company, and is a good example of a "slightly enhanced" 1911. Also, you can get into a Kimber Custom II for about this same price as well, and that's worth a good look.

Other ideas definitely include the SA Range Officer if you want an adjustable sight gun. The Remington 1911 might not be bad to look at either.

There's four options for you. If it were me, I'd be looking very closely at the Kimber Custom II or the Ruger.
 
All 1911's are made in the US.
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To the best of my knowledge, ALL Springfield 1911s originate from Brazil. If (per U.S. import and customs law) they have 51% of the final work done on them here, then they are legally allowed to say that they are "Made in U.S.A." This would also apply to 1911s that originate from other countries as well.

Otherwise for an "American made" 1911, it's Colt, Remington or Ruger.

Para Ordnance, I don't know enough about. Kimber is overpriced with an inflated reputation, and the others, like Wilson, Baer, etc., are out of your price range.

Supposedly, the "Inland" marked 1911s are "duplicates of WWII 1911A1s, but they differ in several details, and are pretty much identical to Auto Ordnance, who, rumor has it, are getting their slides from Armscor of the Philippines.

If I'm not mistaken, the CZ 1911s are made for CZ by Dan Wesson here in the U.S.

Your choice, but my own personal experience tells me to stay away from Turkish guns.
 
I just got up and took my Springfield Loaded 1911 out of my gun safe to see where it was made and it says right on the frame "Made in Brazil-IMBEL". The last time I checked Brazil is not in the USA. Right above the Made in Brazil it says "SI Geneseo IL USA".
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What year was it made????

Springfield stopped importing their frames from Imbel several years ago, and they are all made in the US.

For all the naysayers, keep believing Springfield is still importing their frames from Imbel, as the six SA 1911's I have purchased since 2013 all are made in the US, and have no Imbel markings.
 
Springfield stopped importing their frames from Imbel several years ago, and they are all made in the US.
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No, they didn't. They started finishing Brazilian parts here in order to meet the 51% rule. As I stated in my previous post, this allows them to mark them "Made in USA." This is clearly spelled out in US Customs law and you can look it up.
 
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Springfield Ranger

Thanks guys, the reason I'm wanting a 1911 is just to have one lol but the main reason is for the range, I have a CCW and a USP but its a .40 and I think if i get a 1911 it will be in the 9mm just because it will be cheaper to shoot and I want the quality of a 1911. I just hear so many great things about them. I do really like the Springfield Ranger in the Parkerized finish. Or i might just save for a few years and buy me the Ithica 1911. I own their shot guns and lover it, but its more of a custom 1911 so I'm afraid I would never want to take it out of the case.. So ill prob look at the Springfield of the Para, I hear Remington bought Para so I would think it should be a Quality gun?
 
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