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Or i might just save for a few years and buy me the Ithica 1911. I own their shot guns and lover it, but its more of a custom 1911 so I'm afraid I would never want to take it out of the case.. So ill prob look at the Springfield of the Para, I hear Remington bought Para so I would think it should be a Quality gun?
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Ithacas are made in the Philippines. Remington has had MAJOR QC problems resulting from their takeover.

I would do some very careful research before you spend a lot of money.
 
Ithica

Manufactured 100% right here in the USA at our factory in Upper Sandusky, OH. sorry but your wrong on that oone.
 
Proz76 said:
So ill prob look at the Springfield of the Para, I hear Remington bought Para so I would think it should be a Quality gun?
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Imbel recently announced that they no longer have a relationship with Springfield Armory, but Springfield has been conspicuously silent on the source for their frames and slides post-Imbel. It is widely conjectured that they are sourcing them from Korea (as are some other "American" manufacturers).

ParaUSA no longer exists. Remington killed off the name and the products. It is anticipated that they will bring back the double stack pistols under the Remington name, but I don't think that has happened yet.

Not to beat a dead horse, but I think the best choices are Colt and Ruger, within the budget for this thread.
 
I really like my Remington R-1 Enhanced. Some nice features not seen on base models, and very nice fit and finish. Colt has a new Competition model out now, under $800, with adjustable sights and some nice features. Looks very interesting and at a reasonable price. I do like Rugers a lot, but haven't handled their 1911 yet.
 
Colt, Series 70. Get both calibers, well worth it.

No one regrets buying a Colt 1911. I've never had a failure in mine, and I own several of them. Series 70 is about perfect as far as manufacture, finish, and design go. Series 80 started to cut a few corners.
 
The Ithacas are probably nice guns; I hear they have a lot of hand fitting and good parts (of course, referring to the new production ones not the old surplus guns). However, for that price I'd really look at Dan Wesson instead (or even Les Baer).

Any Para you see out there is not a result of Remington buying Para, it's a Para made gun. The ones I've seen do not display a good fit.

Again, Ruger and the SA Range Officer, or a Kimber Custom II, are my recommendations at this price point.

I would choose .45 if I were to own one 1911, but I do have a 9mm Springfield Loaded (because I choose to own more than one 1911). :D
 
Red-5

What year was it made????

Springfield stopped importing their frames from Imbel several years ago, and they are all made in the US.

For all the naysayers, keep believing Springfield is still importing their frames from Imbel, as the six SA 1911's I have purchased since 2013 all are made in the US, and have no Imbel markings.
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I purchased my Springfield Armory 1911A1 Loaded in 2008 brand new.

I think you need to research the 51% rule. Because it appears that at least some of SA's 1911 frames are still being made in Brazil and then finished here in the US.
 
Despite the raw frame being outsourced, Springfield makes a very nice 1911. Otherwise I would chose a no-frills Kimber in your price range. I've never been a huge colt fan in general, excluding then fact that I want an 80s model python revolver. I admit I've never touched a colt 1911 and they could be the best pistol ever. Colt, to me, has traditionally meant overpriced although they are working on that... mostly because of competition.

Oh, and I would avoid Remington like the plauge. They have very real issues these days.
 
Colt

Did anyone mention Colt? Also, if you look around, you can find Colt and if not that there's always Colt to fall back on.
Pete
 
Armscor is from the Phillipines, some do come from Croatia, and there are very big and revered names who have their guns made, rollmarked, and shipped to them from Turkey. Their shop just adds the few custom embellishments that they made their reputation on.

There are cast frames coming in from those sources, not forged, too. If someone wants a truly American made gun in the 1911 specification, it's going to take more research than picking a Brand name.

No, buying a 1911 does not guarantee American made, if anything, you have to search carefully and understand exactly who really made them. That high end famous maker gun, or the low end GI, may have come from the same plant overseas.
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Please, tirod, fill us in. What big and revered name companies are stamping their names on Turkish 1911s? And, who is using cast frames from those same sources? Curious minds want to know who these companies pulling the wool over our collective eyes are.
 
Made in USA - Under $1000 - 45 or 9mm - Government size

all kinds of models actually
Colt
Sig
Ruger
Springfield Armory

all are good entries into the 1911...not necessarily entry level, most are not. But into the 1911 collecting sickness, they will lead you

You might be lucky and score a Dan Wesson Heritage NOS or used for about the upper end of your budget.

I started with a Government Sized 38 Super from Rock Island and still have it to this day. Many Many other 1911s have moved into my safe over the years but she is still hanging out waiting for the next range trip faithfully.
 
Springfield. The rugers I've handled aren't fit very well and are all cast steel. The sigs I've handled and shot didn't seem as well made as my springer and also have a cast steel frame. I have no experience with S&W 1911s. The kimber 1911s I have handled felt well made and were fit good, but my dad's absolutely does not like to be dry and has malfunctioned a good bit more times than my Springfield. I have heard a lot of horror stories about kimber. I would avoid a colt, I handled a few recent production models at the gun show and they were terrible, I'm not kidding junky weak plastic triggers you could easily break and plastic MSH's as well. The springfield isn't 100% american made but the steel is forged in Brazil and I believe they may be machined down there too but they are assembled and finished in America by Americans their frames and slides are usually fit very well and I trust mine with my life. Have 1400 +/- rds through it. Very accurate as well
 
I have a S&W 4566 all stainless steel, built like a tank & just as heavy. Shooting it is a pleasure, never had a problem. It is the older model with the square combat trigger guard . The 4566 is the commander size, the full size is 4506. My 4566 is 20 years old & still going strong.
 
cw308 said:
I have a S&W 4566 all stainless steel, built like a tank & just as heavy. Shooting it is a pleasure, never had a problem. It is the older model with the square combat trigger guard . The 4566 is the commander size, the full size is 4506. My 4566 is 20 years old & still going strong.
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The topic of this thread is 1911. The S&W 4566 and similar pistols are not 1911s.

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