Your list of "All-Time Worst Guns"
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Have to admit,I never met a gun that I didn't like. But I guess I have 2 that come close and those are the CZ 50 and 70 pistols.
They are jamamatics. I didn't pay alot so they really don't bother me. Probably if I get off my duff and order new mag springs it will probably end the problems
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They are jamamatics. I didn't pay alot so they really don't bother me. Probably if I get off my duff and order new mag springs it will probably end the problems
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Will Beararms
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A Star something or other in 9mm that I bought on an impulse at a Wal Mart in Priceton, Louisiana 9 years ago. I think it was called a Model 36. Who knows and who cares. Man alive that thing would jam after evry third or fourth round. Looking back, I would have to consider that a "growth experience".
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Colt and Bushmaster AR-15s.
johnnybravo
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A Dan Wesson .22 revolver. It must have had a 20 pound double action trigger pull. Never could get the sights adjusted properly. That grip tang/spur was a joke. Traded it off for an Aimpoint 3000. That's one gun I DON'T miss.
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johnnyb
A slow hit beats a fast miss.
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johnnyb
A slow hit beats a fast miss.
1. Anything by Jennings. I think Jennings is a front company for HoMeBoY EnTeRpRiZeS, or whatever that bogus company is that is marketing Pimp Gun 2000 on this forum.
Our PD pulls a Jennings gun off some gang banger about once a day, and sometimes they end up with reduced charges, 'cause the gun fails firearms functionability tests. No joke
hmmm...perhaps thats a marketing ploy to gangbangers: buy this gun, it won't work, so you can't be charged.
Also, a few years ago a guy was involved in a point-blank shootout with a local cop. They both pulled, the BG got the drop on the LEO...but the BG's Jennings J-22 went *click* and the cop's .45 went *BOOM*. Sounds like a good day.
2. The Beretta Tomcat. Some people swear by them, but two out of the three I have seen in action were abysmal little jam monkies. Worthless.
Cheerio,
Mike
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Our PD pulls a Jennings gun off some gang banger about once a day, and sometimes they end up with reduced charges, 'cause the gun fails firearms functionability tests. No joke
hmmm...perhaps thats a marketing ploy to gangbangers: buy this gun, it won't work, so you can't be charged.
Also, a few years ago a guy was involved in a point-blank shootout with a local cop. They both pulled, the BG got the drop on the LEO...but the BG's Jennings J-22 went *click* and the cop's .45 went *BOOM*. Sounds like a good day.
2. The Beretta Tomcat. Some people swear by them, but two out of the three I have seen in action were abysmal little jam monkies. Worthless.
Cheerio,
Mike
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"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." -Robert Heinlein
The Silver Bullet 1719
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Any gun the has the word LLama printed on it.
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By far the worst gun I have ever owned, shot, and seen would be the Squires & Bingham M16-22 lookalike. Looks crappy, the barrel was bent from the factory, couldn't hit anything, razor sharp, I got cut 3 or 4 times from pulling back the bolt, and the pistol grip broke off for no reason. I still have it, jammed it into the back of my safe.
hksigwalther
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RikWriter,
I agree. Although I try not to form absolute opinions on first (or second, as the case with the AMTs) impressions, I sometimes fall into that trap, especially when $XXX.XX are involved. I've sworn off AMTs but as for 1911s, I'm very hesitant but not totally off the list.
So, when I tried other locking designs, Walther tilting block, modified Browning cam, kidney shaped CZs, they seemed more simpler and/or reliable than the swivel-link. The AMT debacle didn't totally remove the 1911 as a choice, it just sent it to the back of the class.
- Ron V.
I agree. Although I try not to form absolute opinions on first (or second, as the case with the AMTs) impressions, I sometimes fall into that trap, especially when $XXX.XX are involved. I've sworn off AMTs but as for 1911s, I'm very hesitant but not totally off the list.
So, when I tried other locking designs, Walther tilting block, modified Browning cam, kidney shaped CZs, they seemed more simpler and/or reliable than the swivel-link. The AMT debacle didn't totally remove the 1911 as a choice, it just sent it to the back of the class.
- Ron V.
And the envelope goes to....The jennings .22 that I bought for my wife 12 years ago.What a load of manure that 100.00 was.Jam,must fire at PBR to hit target etc.Gave it away and got her a nice lil'.380 that works great.
Is jennings still in business? (probably just for the gangsta punks who can't shoot worth a darn anyway.I love to watch these hoods at the range ang they can't even hit the paper.It makes me feel safe to know that if one draws down on me he'll be in the body bag with an empty clip in his "9")
Is jennings still in business? (probably just for the gangsta punks who can't shoot worth a darn anyway.I love to watch these hoods at the range ang they can't even hit the paper.It makes me feel safe to know that if one draws down on me he'll be in the body bag with an empty clip in his "9")
One day, after a large concrete block hit me square on the thinker, I decided to buy a Rossi .22 revolver. It was a dismal day; dark ominus clouds, a bodeful wind blowing. All the barnyard animals lay still. Not even a bird chirped on this dank evil day. Hell, I don't even think my wife had all that much to say. Yes, it truly was a day of pure evil working on the unexpecting.
I cannot quite picture what shape hand the grip was designed for...? Perhaps it was made for a king...! Why this gun was made in honor of the 11th in-bred ruler of Spain, King Nothinggoodevercameoutofspain!
I solved the grip problem by building the grip up with hockey tape. Not only was it more comfortable, it helped prevent people from taking this useless POS seriously. (I couldn't live with that).
After firing a cylinder (yes, it did shoot) it was necessary to bang on the ejector rod to remove the spent cases. The most appropriate tool...why that would have to be a big rock of course.
And the sights? Let's just say that the gun would have been better off without them. That way nobody would ever make the mistake of trying to use them.
Then one day it hit me...(This is the happy ending part)I'll get rid of it! I actually found someone stupid enough to trade me a pair of boots for that thing...can you imagine! What a sucker...
Now I have only sunshine in my life...!
Regards in quality,
SM
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"When evil wins in the world, it is only by the default of the good. That is why one man of reason and moral stature is more important actually and potentially, than a million fools". -Ayn Rand
I cannot quite picture what shape hand the grip was designed for...? Perhaps it was made for a king...! Why this gun was made in honor of the 11th in-bred ruler of Spain, King Nothinggoodevercameoutofspain!
I solved the grip problem by building the grip up with hockey tape. Not only was it more comfortable, it helped prevent people from taking this useless POS seriously. (I couldn't live with that).
After firing a cylinder (yes, it did shoot) it was necessary to bang on the ejector rod to remove the spent cases. The most appropriate tool...why that would have to be a big rock of course.
And the sights? Let's just say that the gun would have been better off without them. That way nobody would ever make the mistake of trying to use them.
Then one day it hit me...(This is the happy ending part)I'll get rid of it! I actually found someone stupid enough to trade me a pair of boots for that thing...can you imagine! What a sucker...
Now I have only sunshine in my life...!
Regards in quality,
SM
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"When evil wins in the world, it is only by the default of the good. That is why one man of reason and moral stature is more important actually and potentially, than a million fools". -Ayn Rand
Well, I was powerfully amused by this topic (and kinda bored on this, my day off) so I decided to compile the entire list of bad guns and break them down by manufacturer, just for ****s and giggles. What does this tell us? Nothing. But it was fun to do.
In last place we have the following makers, each with one nomination for 'worst gun':
Steyr, Star, Bushmaster, Browning, H&K, Taurus, Arminus, Glock, Warner, Lorcin, Kimber, Thomas, Dan Wesson, Squires & Bingham, Beretta, Davis.
One step 'up' gives us the following list of manufacturers, each with two votes for worst gun:
Llama, Ruger, Intratec, Century Arms, Astra, Charter Arms, Remington, Bryco
Next, with three votes for worst gun...standing proud and alone:
Rossi
And another singleton, the recipient of four votes for their bad product:
AMT
Now we get into the serious crap...
In Third place....JENNINGS! Six votes for worst gun.
In second place...a TIE! Seven votes each: KEL-TEC and COLT
And, first place...the most mentions of 'worst gun' goes to...
*drumroll*
Smith & Wesson, with a whopping 10 mentions!
Truth be told, I'm certain the results are rather biased...most people on TFL would never buy such 'quality' *cough*cough* guns as anything made by Jennings or Davis, otherwise I'm sure they would have done much better...err....worse...err....you know what I mean. Also, as I am (thankfully) unfamiliar with many of these models and manufacturers, I may have mistakenly lumped a few that don't belong together under one manufacturer, or divided one manufacturer into two groups, based on how the names were posted. *shrug* Like this is scientific anyway.
Mike
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"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." -Robert Heinlein
In last place we have the following makers, each with one nomination for 'worst gun':
Steyr, Star, Bushmaster, Browning, H&K, Taurus, Arminus, Glock, Warner, Lorcin, Kimber, Thomas, Dan Wesson, Squires & Bingham, Beretta, Davis.
One step 'up' gives us the following list of manufacturers, each with two votes for worst gun:
Llama, Ruger, Intratec, Century Arms, Astra, Charter Arms, Remington, Bryco
Next, with three votes for worst gun...standing proud and alone:
Rossi
And another singleton, the recipient of four votes for their bad product:
AMT
Now we get into the serious crap...
In Third place....JENNINGS! Six votes for worst gun.
In second place...a TIE! Seven votes each: KEL-TEC and COLT
And, first place...the most mentions of 'worst gun' goes to...
*drumroll*
Smith & Wesson, with a whopping 10 mentions!
Truth be told, I'm certain the results are rather biased...most people on TFL would never buy such 'quality' *cough*cough* guns as anything made by Jennings or Davis, otherwise I'm sure they would have done much better...err....worse...err....you know what I mean. Also, as I am (thankfully) unfamiliar with many of these models and manufacturers, I may have mistakenly lumped a few that don't belong together under one manufacturer, or divided one manufacturer into two groups, based on how the names were posted. *shrug* Like this is scientific anyway.
Mike
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"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." -Robert Heinlein
Colt Pony Pocketlite from the Custom Shop. Nice wooden grips that came loose within the first 20 rounds (I think they actually came loose from just holding it). Wouldn't feed 2 mags without locking open at least once with rounds still in the mag. Had a nice pattern (notice, I said pattern, not group)at 7 yards: much like a shotgun at 100 yards. Sights were misaligned from the factory and I couldn't stomach looking at the thing long enough to fix them.
I sold it at a loss to a guy at a gunshow in Chattanooga. Actually, I deducted the amount it would take to fix it from the selling price so it was a good deal. Next weekend, he was trying to sell it at a gunshow in Knoxville. I sent my brother over to ask about it and the crook said it was the greatest thing since slice bread, reliable, accurate, etc. Slime bag. To think, I almost bought a Star PD from this guy once. But when someone says that a gun is unfired and you can see the powder residue from having been shot extensively and never cleaned, you just got to wonder.
I sold it at a loss to a guy at a gunshow in Chattanooga. Actually, I deducted the amount it would take to fix it from the selling price so it was a good deal. Next weekend, he was trying to sell it at a gunshow in Knoxville. I sent my brother over to ask about it and the crook said it was the greatest thing since slice bread, reliable, accurate, etc. Slime bag. To think, I almost bought a Star PD from this guy once. But when someone says that a gun is unfired and you can see the powder residue from having been shot extensively and never cleaned, you just got to wonder.
HYDRA-SHOKz
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The AMT Backup .380 big POS. SHOKz
Colt All American 2000. I really liked that pistol, except that it only functioned when it felt like it. Sent it back twice and it still wouldn't fire. Luckily, Colt was threatening to close their doors, so the dealer that I bought it from took it back, thinking he had a collectible on his hands.
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