Your list of "All-Time Worst Guns"

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Someone started a thread like this on GT, and it's loads of fun. What about you guys? Fire away!

Here's my list -

(1)Jennings J-22. The one I owned should be on the all-time jammamatic top five list. Got it at a pawn shop for 40$. We called it the "lucky seven". If you could get it to fire all seven rounds without jamming, hanging up, or failing to cycle, you were VERY lucky. I think I might have got two mags through it out of about 300 rounds without jamming. However, when it did fire it was pretty darn accurate.

(2)The ubiquitous Jennings Nine. The one with the combination slide lock/safety. One of my friends got one for about 90$. It utterly self-destructed after about 100 rounds. We still can't figure out what happened to it. It just fell apart when it cycled forward on the last (very last) round. One of the damn funniest things you'd ever see. My buddy thought he had a precision instrument - he said "I'm gonna hold a fine bead on that coke can" - he pulled the trigger, we heard the bang, and the slide went spinning out about 20ft in front of him. It went "thud" in the grass before he could lower his hands. He was still holding the frame up w/no slide, with this look of disbelief on his face. Somehow the bullet hit the can. We were almost puking we wer laughing so hard. This was the first day he had it! There were pieces laying all over the yard. He quietly put them all in a paper bag and took it back. He still gets mad when we mention it.

(3) Bryco 380. Worked okay, but must have had a smoothbore barrel. My bud couldn't hit a gallon jug at 7 yards with a full clip. He tried it three times. He finally threw the gun and hit it. The safest place regarding this gun was directly in front of the barrel.

(4) Remington 742 in 308. Shake it and it sounded like a bread bag full of watch parts. Jammed every round. Another gun that printed regular minute of barn door accuracy. Wouldn't hit a hubcap at fifty yards.



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I once had a Davis .380. The slide was so close to your hand that if you weren't careful it could really skin the fleshy area between the thumb and index finger.
 
Hmm, do you mean worst guns I have owned/fired or just heard of? ;)
Just keeping it to ones I have owned/fired...

KelTec 9mm. I know some people swear by these guns, but I owned one and fired another loaned to me by a friend and I couldn't hit a damn thing. I am talking the target had to be at about 10 FEET for me to keep all the rounds in the black! On a silhouette target!! Trigger pull was just HORRIBLE.

Astra A80 45. Reliable, but horrible ergonomics, lousy trigger and shorter sight radius than it had to have.

Intratec CAT9. Crappy trigger, inaccurate at all but contact ranges. Amazingly it fed okay though.

Can't think of any rifles that have been lemons for me except for a couple home-built CAR15s I was unlucky enough to buy (after which I decided not to buy an AR unless the upper had been factory-assembled).
 
I've been rather lucky in my 40 years or so of buying/selling guns.

The biggest mistake I ever made was trading something for a brand new AMT Hardballer .45 ACP! It never got thru a 7 round mag w/o problems.

The biggest piece of crap, bar none, that I have ever had the dis-pleasure of owning or shooting. That was 23 years ago and that experience has never left me.

And, their customer service was horrible also! Two trips back and they couldn't get it right.

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What? All these posts and no one has yet mentioned the Grendel .380? Well, maybe it's been forgotten. If so, good. It defined the concept of POS.
 
The worst gun I have personally owned was an AMT .45ACP Back Up. After years of telling others that AMTs were crap I can't believe I bought one, but I did. It actually fed, chambered and ejected ammo cleanly--when it fired. It misfired routinely, and that with a 20lb trigger. :rolleyes: It went back to AMT twice and still wasn't right.

Of course a little education since then has taught me that the .45ACP wasn't meant to be fired in a short barrel anyway... ;)

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Hello. I once had a Colt Combat Commander that would only feed 200 gr CCI/Speer JHPs.
It would feed nothing else reliably, including ball! I guess that one was just a lemon. Best.
 
No one has yet mentioned the horrible Rogak? The clone of the Steyr GB, which was a good, albeit, bulky pistol. I would also second the Grendel .380 and its .22 sibling. These were Kel-Tec's first endeavors, I believe. Let's not forget the All-American by Colt! The only one I had the distinction of owning was the Grendel .380, for about 2 weeks.
 
worst gun I still own? H&K VP70Z.

Solid construction, easy to take apart, reliable and accurate as all get out...but that 18 pound double action only trigger pull gives me a finger hernia after half a mag.

Put a Wolff spring kit in it...lowered the trigger pull to just 14 pounds...now it takes a full mag before my trigger finger self destructs...

Now if only it was a VP70M, I might like it a bit more.


Alex
 
Colt Mustang II .380 bought new in Nov. 99.

I have two other Colt (Govt.) .380's that work fine, but this gun only locks the slide back on an empty magazine one time out of twenty. I sent it back to Colt in December, got it back three weeks ago with a new slide. When I picked it up the rear sight almost fell out of its channel, and the slide still won't lock back. I sent it back to Colt with a letter that included photographs of the generally poor workmanship and the following:

I demand my money back from you by return mail. If you decide to send me back another pistol instead, be sure and send money for the FFL and California transfer fees, and if that pistol doesn't work perfectly, expect to see these photographs again in small claims court. I hope you agree with me that the most economical way for us to part friends is for you to send me a check for $478.33 ($15 transfer fee).

I'll let you know what happens. I think the problem is that no one at Colt gives a $#it anymore.

[This message has been edited by Ledbetter (edited April 15, 2000).]
 
The Ruger Ranch Rifle and Mini-14 are by far the most inaccurate and over rated rifles I know of.

They are reliable and thus a great way to make a lot of noise and for those who just want to make noise and spray in the general direction of the target they are great.

I've found that numerous Ruger fans are FOND of the wonderful accuracy of 8 to 25 inches grouping at 100 yards. My Makarov and my Walther TPH .22 are far more accurate, at any distance, than any Ruger .223 rifle I've ever found.

I love the little rifle and if I had an extra thousand to fix on after I bought it -- and couldn't think of anything else to do with a thousand bucks -- I'd like to own another one. Otherwise hopefully I've learned my lesson after 4 of them...

Yes I'm a slow learner and that goes so for my choices in pretty but unreliable women too.

OK Ruger fans -- FLAME ON!!! However my experience outranks your silly claims as far as I'm concerned!! :)
 
Llama Commanche .357. After about 20 rounds of 125-grain JHP, the cylinder would spin freely.

Llama claimed I abused the gun and refused to honor warranty.

I had the gun repaired by a gunsmith and sold it for $100 (half what I paid for). Never buy another Spanish gun again. You do get what you pay for.
 
Dont forget Rossi revolvers--

Or anything that Century Arms has anything to do with--

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Ledbetter,

It is truly a rare occurence to get a colt back from factory repairs that doesn't have an equal number, if not more, things wrong with it than before you sent it.

I asked them to fix the BC gap on my Python (a FOUR time return), so they torqued the barrel about 5-10% off center!!!

My DS-II broke a firng pin after 200 rounds, so I sent it in. It came back dangerously out of time.
 
I wasn't fond of the Grendel .380 (think I had the P-10 version). Trigger pull was horrible, and I believe it tended to malfunction (failure to feed). While it was designed by George Kelgren, it was not a Kel-Tec. I can hit a 1" square at 7 yards with my Kel-Tec P-11. I have also hit a 2 liter at 25 yards with only my second shot.

My Intratec CAT-9 malfunctioned, and hurt to shoot.
 
B Shipley--it sounds like we've both learned our lesson. I don't believe I would ever buy another Colt, at least not a new one.

Jody Hudson--I share your experience with pretty but unreliable women. Be persistent. At the age of 39 I found my wife, who is pretty AND reliable. :cool:
 
AMT Lightning (Ruger .22 clone),didn`t shoot half as good as my Ruger,it jammed constantly and had enough sharp edges to slice lunchmeat. Davis derringer, I bought on on a lark,it was just so cute. I fired one shot, cocked it and it kinda crunched. Shook it and it rattled. Turned it over and the barrel selector part of the hammer fell out in two pieces! Took it back the next day and got a NAA Mini revolver. MAC11 carbine,a buddy has one. It has the crappiest sheetmetal construction I`ve ever seen. The sights areen`t even a joke,they`re not that good! I can EASILY outshoot it with my Keltec(!). Lastly it has this annoying trait,that the trigger actually slaps your finger when it`s fired. After one clip your finger really stings. Marcus
 
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