TheeBadOne
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Kerry vs Bush, who has a 'record-in-action' of anti-gun actions?
You Elected Him
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You know Chain Smoker, you simply proved my point. You sounded just like your buddy Kerry. You couldn't intelligently answer me, so you changed a few words and stumbled around the issue, without answering anything. I guess I see why you voted for him. Now if you are smart enough, or articulate enough, care to scroll back to my original message to you, and try really hard to formulate a rational, logical, sensible reply instead of just misquoting me? I understand that it will be hard for you to answer my questions with your illogical drivel, but thats okay, we'll wait while you get a dictionary...........
This is constructive how?
Nope. The US gave the country of Afghanistan a foreign aid package. We do it to a lot of countries that we don't agree with. Here's the thing: by giving foreign aid to a country, we get some control, because we have the ability to use the threat of removing that carrot as a stick. Should we remove all foreign aid from all countries that commit what YOU would call an atrocity here in the US? How will we ever help that country's people? Shall we go to war with it until they come around to our way of thinking?
But frankly, looking at the US AID info here, I don't see much of a change in funds to Afghanistan during 2001.
Yes, the Taliban was a really bad thing. How 'bout how they destroyed thousands of irreplacable religious and secular artworks? Really crummy. But as for the time, place, and manner that they inflicted their skewed sense of justice-- that's their sovereign right. We can exert pressure to change that. In the end, we exerted a LOT, once they hosted our attackers. But don't confuse the Afghanis as the Taliban.
Yeah, just like Boutros Boutros-Ghali was Secretary-General in 1994.
And what did the UN do for Rwanda for the Hutus massacred by the Tutsis 10 years ago? Where was the international reaction then? Is the UN really such a great conscience for us all?
And, while things are miserable in Sudan, the term "genocide" is getting thrown about a bit freely, don't you think? Oh. I guess not.
As for Bush's answer-- I'm curious: what did you want to hear?
TheeBadOne
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'I am shocked, Shocked to find gambling going on here'.
All of you folks wringing your hands and fuming about allegedly being lied to by the Bush administration as to the justification for this war need to hitch up your panties, blow your collective noses and get on with your lives. Bush worked from the same intel. that the entire western world was working from. Did he spin it to add emphasis to details which justified the immediacy of our actions, you betcha. Did he take advantage of the blood lust generated by the savage attacks of 9/11 and their aftermath; you're damn skippy. Did he play on the fears of Joe and Jane Lunchbox by painting Sadaam as evil incarnate; no question. Did he pick the one place in the mid east where we could justifiably land with both feet and kick over the largest dung heap that we could find; guilty as charged. Did he place US forces in a strategic position that could be used to project our will into Syria and Iran if and when it became necessary; abso-effing-lutely. Did he change the status quo forever in a region that had dealt in the most brutal forms of terror and thumbed its collective noses at us and our allies for decades; bingo. Did he flush down the crapper the multi-billion dollar scam that western europe was running on the rest of the world and in doing so show the UN for the craven group of cowards, shills and whores that they are; indeed. Is he unapologetic for having a spine when he detractors are too scared to get out from under their collective beds; yes, yes and yes. I have little problem with any of this.
This country does not go to war easily. We have a history of being slow to anger and basically just want to be left the hell alone. Our history, however, is replete with the American public being lied to, hyped, manipulated, cajoled, spun, played, etc. by both media and government into an emotional state to where we WANT war. This war is no different, though I think its more justified than some of our other 'adventures'. You folks who don't acknowledge this fact need to grow up. After watching Barbara Boxer make an ass of herself abusing the 'advise and consent' clause today I am more convinced than ever that the left doesn't give a flip about the war or the troops fighting it. They just use their 'outrage' to attempt to denegrate Bush and to grandstand for the cameras. What a completely and utterly transparent collection of turdbags!
BTW...I don't wanna hear any more of this crap about Saint Sadaam not harboring terrorists, not being responsible for 9/11 or not having WMD. Tell that to the families of the people he gassed, the families of people killed by his subsidized suicide bombers, his torture victims, political opponents, rape victims, etc. Whether it's death on a Jerusalem bus, death in the marshes of eastern Iraq or death in lower Manhattan, the victims are just as dead and he and his ilk are just as responsible. He was a snake in a box filled with snakes. They are intermingled, intertwined and all deadly. We had to start somewhere. I'm glad it was there. On to Iran.
All of you folks wringing your hands and fuming about allegedly being lied to by the Bush administration as to the justification for this war need to hitch up your panties, blow your collective noses and get on with your lives. Bush worked from the same intel. that the entire western world was working from. Did he spin it to add emphasis to details which justified the immediacy of our actions, you betcha. Did he take advantage of the blood lust generated by the savage attacks of 9/11 and their aftermath; you're damn skippy. Did he play on the fears of Joe and Jane Lunchbox by painting Sadaam as evil incarnate; no question. Did he pick the one place in the mid east where we could justifiably land with both feet and kick over the largest dung heap that we could find; guilty as charged. Did he place US forces in a strategic position that could be used to project our will into Syria and Iran if and when it became necessary; abso-effing-lutely. Did he change the status quo forever in a region that had dealt in the most brutal forms of terror and thumbed its collective noses at us and our allies for decades; bingo. Did he flush down the crapper the multi-billion dollar scam that western europe was running on the rest of the world and in doing so show the UN for the craven group of cowards, shills and whores that they are; indeed. Is he unapologetic for having a spine when he detractors are too scared to get out from under their collective beds; yes, yes and yes. I have little problem with any of this.
This country does not go to war easily. We have a history of being slow to anger and basically just want to be left the hell alone. Our history, however, is replete with the American public being lied to, hyped, manipulated, cajoled, spun, played, etc. by both media and government into an emotional state to where we WANT war. This war is no different, though I think its more justified than some of our other 'adventures'. You folks who don't acknowledge this fact need to grow up. After watching Barbara Boxer make an ass of herself abusing the 'advise and consent' clause today I am more convinced than ever that the left doesn't give a flip about the war or the troops fighting it. They just use their 'outrage' to attempt to denegrate Bush and to grandstand for the cameras. What a completely and utterly transparent collection of turdbags!
BTW...I don't wanna hear any more of this crap about Saint Sadaam not harboring terrorists, not being responsible for 9/11 or not having WMD. Tell that to the families of the people he gassed, the families of people killed by his subsidized suicide bombers, his torture victims, political opponents, rape victims, etc. Whether it's death on a Jerusalem bus, death in the marshes of eastern Iraq or death in lower Manhattan, the victims are just as dead and he and his ilk are just as responsible. He was a snake in a box filled with snakes. They are intermingled, intertwined and all deadly. We had to start somewhere. I'm glad it was there. On to Iran.
The money was part of an aid package designed to help the people. We send aid to other countries, and have for years. The taliban were an evil, horrible group, and needed to be wiped off the face of the earth. They do torture, and kill, and maim, in the most horrible ways imaginable. All under Sadaams rule. Dictators are dictators for a reason. They don't let other 'regimes' stay active in their 'kingdom' that they do not endorse or collaberate with. We didn't send the money to fund taliban rule, we sent it to help the common folk. Get real. And as far as the UN is concerned, they have turned a blind eye to global suffering that didn't further their personal agenda for years! It has become one of the most corrupt, agenda driven forces on the planet. Who needs 'em? As far as Israel goes, we started backing them out of Biblical belief, and as long as this country wants to remain strong we need to continue to back them. And if things are so terrible elsewhere in the world, why are not other countries, tired of the suffering, stepping up and helping take care of business? Everyone wants americas help when the SHTF, but wants to cry about our actions later.
The point in all this is that even if you don't believe in our president, we are at war, and our troops should be fully supported. It was discusting, and a horrible discrace to america how the troops were treated returning home from vietnam, and hopefully people don't do the same for our brave troops now.
And as far as my indignation? Sure, I am outraged. Any decent moral human being would be at the sorry state of global affairs, but THANK GOD ALMIGHTY that we have a president willing to crush these dictators, and end these attrocities, one at a time, without worrying what the leftist crybabies say. He has a spine, and a backbone, and no matter the reason or the cost, the end is justified, and another people will be free.......
The point in all this is that even if you don't believe in our president, we are at war, and our troops should be fully supported. It was discusting, and a horrible discrace to america how the troops were treated returning home from vietnam, and hopefully people don't do the same for our brave troops now.
And as far as my indignation? Sure, I am outraged. Any decent moral human being would be at the sorry state of global affairs, but THANK GOD ALMIGHTY that we have a president willing to crush these dictators, and end these attrocities, one at a time, without worrying what the leftist crybabies say. He has a spine, and a backbone, and no matter the reason or the cost, the end is justified, and another people will be free.......
Yep, so why are you bothering to try and change our minds? I dont think Bush is perfect, hell I really dont even like the guy that much, buT he is still better than that traitoris hippie idiot Kerry who joined the army just so he could say later down the road... "I served too!" All that guy would have done would have been to make the lefty liberal commie Bush haters feel good.
Those type of people are sheep, easy to conquer and easy to kill with minimal resistance. They are the type of people who would high tale and run soon as an invading army came. They are the type of people who dont deserve to be Americans. Its a shame this country has so many mental weaklings in it. In the end those type of people will be the death of this country, simply because there numbers keep growing and growing.
How about the WHOLE story...
See No Evil: The True Story of a Ground Soldier in the CIA's War on Terrorism by Robert Baer
The Man Who Warned America: The Life and Death of John O'neill, The FBI's Embattled Counterterror Warrior by Murry Weiss
Legacy: Paying The Price For The Clinton Years by Rich Lowry
Intelligence Failure: How Clinton's National Security Policy Set the Stage for 9/11 by David N. Bossie
Catastrophe: Clinton's Role in America's Worst Disaster by Christopher Ruddy & Carl Limbacher
Why America Slept: The Failure to Prevent 9/11 by Gerald Posner
Losing Bin Laden: How Bill Clinton's Failures Unleased Global Terrorism by Richard Miniter
The High Cost of Peace: How Washington's Middle East Policy Left America Vulnerable to Terrorism by Yossef Bodansky
Dereliction of Duty: An Eyewitness Account of How Bill Clinton Compromised America's National Security by Lt. Col. Robert "Buzz" Patterson, USAF (Ret.)
See No Evil: The True Story of a Ground Soldier in the CIA's War on Terrorism by Robert Baer
The Man Who Warned America: The Life and Death of John O'neill, The FBI's Embattled Counterterror Warrior by Murry Weiss
Legacy: Paying The Price For The Clinton Years by Rich Lowry
Intelligence Failure: How Clinton's National Security Policy Set the Stage for 9/11 by David N. Bossie
Catastrophe: Clinton's Role in America's Worst Disaster by Christopher Ruddy & Carl Limbacher
Why America Slept: The Failure to Prevent 9/11 by Gerald Posner
Losing Bin Laden: How Bill Clinton's Failures Unleased Global Terrorism by Richard Miniter
The High Cost of Peace: How Washington's Middle East Policy Left America Vulnerable to Terrorism by Yossef Bodansky
bountyh....
The Bu$hco man has spoken..... you had your "accountability moment".... it was called "the election in November"....
For the next four years, no one will admit a single error, no matter what.
That's the Bu$h strategy, ignore what you don't want to talk about.... that way it doesn't exist except for the poor fools who inhabit "the reality-based environment"....
The Universal Oath of Allegiance to the New American Emperor is being drafted.
The Bu$hco man has spoken..... you had your "accountability moment".... it was called "the election in November"....
For the next four years, no one will admit a single error, no matter what.
That's the Bu$h strategy, ignore what you don't want to talk about.... that way it doesn't exist except for the poor fools who inhabit "the reality-based environment"....
The Universal Oath of Allegiance to the New American Emperor is being drafted.
Chain......
Your right.....you researched very well... I am a veteran....that is just about all you know of me..... I know that bothers you but stand by.....
I respect your American rights and freedoms and you earned them just as mush as I did...
You claim to have read the paper for years and years front to back....and your point is???? Sorry I don't trust half what I read or hear..... Do you think that only 100% true stories go into the rags of all these big cities? Come out of the basement your held up in.... I know there are few politicians I would trust to feed my dog so lets get that much straight.... I am glad your a Bush fan....see if we didn't have two sides of every story - there likely wouldn't be a story......... No need to reply because I think the story here is done....
Two sides................. left side of the LINE and right side
ps.......you should read the sports page ........ most all the story lines there are true...
Your right.....you researched very well... I am a veteran....that is just about all you know of me..... I know that bothers you but stand by.....
I respect your American rights and freedoms and you earned them just as mush as I did...
You claim to have read the paper for years and years front to back....and your point is???? Sorry I don't trust half what I read or hear..... Do you think that only 100% true stories go into the rags of all these big cities? Come out of the basement your held up in.... I know there are few politicians I would trust to feed my dog so lets get that much straight.... I am glad your a Bush fan....see if we didn't have two sides of every story - there likely wouldn't be a story......... No need to reply because I think the story here is done....
Two sides................. left side of the LINE and right side
ps.......you should read the sports page ........ most all the story lines there are true...jailmed.....
Your Bush ($) is a nice touch....
Yes, I hear 40 million in private donations going to the big party stuff too...
and Bush raised corporate donations from 100,000 to 250,000.....
I wonder if any of it matters? Didn't Clinton just open a BIG $ library not too long ago? My last point is I think most powerful political positions in our country are run by very wealthy people. If Kerry would have won the votes would you put the cute ($) sign in his name too? Most people that get to the top owe favors to those along the way.........that's politics and that's what sucks about them............
Your Bush ($) is a nice touch....
Yes, I hear 40 million in private donations going to the big party stuff too...
and Bush raised corporate donations from 100,000 to 250,000.....
I wonder if any of it matters? Didn't Clinton just open a BIG $ library not too long ago? My last point is I think most powerful political positions in our country are run by very wealthy people. If Kerry would have won the votes would you put the cute ($) sign in his name too? Most people that get to the top owe favors to those along the way.........that's politics and that's what sucks about them............
TheeBadOne
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TheeBadOne
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Reports of More Post-Election Depression
In the midst of all the excitement surrounding Thursday’s inauguration comes more news of Kerry supporters suffering from post-election depression.
“Dear Abby" advice columns are filled questions from depressed Kerry supporters, which led to this bit of advice from one write-in shrink: “Don't worry. Many psychologists I've spoken to about post-election depression say those feelings are normal, especially now, with inauguration festivities underway.”
Now, if it seems like this is the first election where the losers took a beeline to the psychiatrist’s couch, we may have discovered the reason why.
OpinionJournal.com reports on a new study that shows a relationship between states that went for Kerry and states that have a high concentration of psychologists. “The ten states (including the District of Columbia) with the highest ratio of psychologists per 100,000 residents, were, with the exception of Colorado, all blue states, which supported John Kerry...The ten states with the lowest ratio of psychologists per 100,000 residents, all were red states, supporting Bush…”
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In the midst of all the excitement surrounding Thursday’s inauguration comes more news of Kerry supporters suffering from post-election depression.
“Dear Abby" advice columns are filled questions from depressed Kerry supporters, which led to this bit of advice from one write-in shrink: “Don't worry. Many psychologists I've spoken to about post-election depression say those feelings are normal, especially now, with inauguration festivities underway.”
Now, if it seems like this is the first election where the losers took a beeline to the psychiatrist’s couch, we may have discovered the reason why.
OpinionJournal.com reports on a new study that shows a relationship between states that went for Kerry and states that have a high concentration of psychologists. “The ten states (including the District of Columbia) with the highest ratio of psychologists per 100,000 residents, were, with the exception of Colorado, all blue states, which supported John Kerry...The ten states with the lowest ratio of psychologists per 100,000 residents, all were red states, supporting Bush…”
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Black_Iron
Moderator
If you ask me, this "hatred of Bu$h" by Bu$h haters is somehow rational and hatred of CumTon isn't?
Chain_Smoker
Why do you want to kill Osama Bin Laden? Please give me the reasons.
If you think a Bush is a monster for supporting the Taliban, why isn't he a monster for supporting the ultra-nationalist, nuclear weapons smuggling (to India), international-law breaking, racist "Jew only" occupation of Palestine?
Because the media and your leftie loonies like Michael Moore think it's the "right" thing to do? To embarrass Bush pertaining to Iraq? It was nothing but charade of the I$raelocratic party to mix two completely different issues.
Your disgust with Bush makes very little sense when you factor in your support of a senator who makes Edward Kennedy look conservative.
http://www.ytedk.com/
The Dems are such lovers of human rights, aren't they? :barf:
Can someone tell me the REAL reason why that atrocious and evil generation from the 60's "protested" Vietnam other than out of pure selfishness and immaturity? Why they all adopted Leninism, Maoism, Stalinism, freedom to commit perverted acts, etc.?
To sum up the pro-Israel, pro-China, Cumton era:
"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." Plato
Chain_Smoker
Why do you want to kill Osama Bin Laden? Please give me the reasons.
If you think a Bush is a monster for supporting the Taliban, why isn't he a monster for supporting the ultra-nationalist, nuclear weapons smuggling (to India), international-law breaking, racist "Jew only" occupation of Palestine?
Because the media and your leftie loonies like Michael Moore think it's the "right" thing to do? To embarrass Bush pertaining to Iraq? It was nothing but charade of the I$raelocratic party to mix two completely different issues.
Your disgust with Bush makes very little sense when you factor in your support of a senator who makes Edward Kennedy look conservative.
http://www.ytedk.com/
The Dems are such lovers of human rights, aren't they? :barf:
Can someone tell me the REAL reason why that atrocious and evil generation from the 60's "protested" Vietnam other than out of pure selfishness and immaturity? Why they all adopted Leninism, Maoism, Stalinism, freedom to commit perverted acts, etc.?
To sum up the pro-Israel, pro-China, Cumton era:
"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." Plato
Its hard, really, phrasing things. I've started and deleted numerous times a post to this.
I can sum it up pretty easily: George W. Bush will go down in history as one of the worst presidents to ever helm the United States of America. Under his leadership the country has been sold out and lied to numerous times, is involved in dangerous nation building exercises and is squandering its resources, including the most precious of them all: human lives in a vain attempt to make a select group more powerful.
I'm glad that many people feel confident with him as president, however, I wonder how many of those people have given more than a cursory look into what's actually going on, and has bothered to try reading some of the "opposition's" facts, instead of blinding relying on those who have a vested interest in promoting the current ruling elite.
Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. If you haven't noticed, the executive branch of the US government is currently doing its utmost to stack the deck and throw off the checks and balances system to weight itself with absolute power. Furthermore, all three branches of government are beginning to become too close with particular moneyed interests, placing another barrier between a government for the people and by the people and making it more akin to a government for some of the people and bought by the corporations.
Yes, I voted for John Kerry. I'm fully aware of his "antigunner" status, but I'd have rather have dealt with that worry rather than the destructive path our current administration is taking us on. At the end of the day, I'd rather have a leader that shares a difference of opinion than one who lies to me, my fellow Americans, and the rest of the world; and then who uses those lies to further his/their own goals and agendas.
Hopefully, we make it to 2008, and when we do there's no more vote fraud allegations (many of which are pretty damning, at that) and whomever is presented as a serious presidential canidate has a better resume than both GWB and John Kerry put together.
Coz I don't want Hillary Clinton as president, but I'm willing to give her my vote over any of the Bush crew.
Just to head off the inevitable arguments, yes I do support the troops (so much so I'd like to see them come home and do something useful than to squat on mineral rights for KBR). Yes, I am in fact a card carrying Communist. No, despite the fact that I'd like to live in a foreign country, I won't move: Its too difficult. Anything else? Wait, wait.. Seriously, my only suggestion is that all of you think long and hard about who's running hte country and where its going. Seriously, that's it. OK, carry on.
I can sum it up pretty easily: George W. Bush will go down in history as one of the worst presidents to ever helm the United States of America. Under his leadership the country has been sold out and lied to numerous times, is involved in dangerous nation building exercises and is squandering its resources, including the most precious of them all: human lives in a vain attempt to make a select group more powerful.
I'm glad that many people feel confident with him as president, however, I wonder how many of those people have given more than a cursory look into what's actually going on, and has bothered to try reading some of the "opposition's" facts, instead of blinding relying on those who have a vested interest in promoting the current ruling elite.
Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. If you haven't noticed, the executive branch of the US government is currently doing its utmost to stack the deck and throw off the checks and balances system to weight itself with absolute power. Furthermore, all three branches of government are beginning to become too close with particular moneyed interests, placing another barrier between a government for the people and by the people and making it more akin to a government for some of the people and bought by the corporations.
Yes, I voted for John Kerry. I'm fully aware of his "antigunner" status, but I'd have rather have dealt with that worry rather than the destructive path our current administration is taking us on. At the end of the day, I'd rather have a leader that shares a difference of opinion than one who lies to me, my fellow Americans, and the rest of the world; and then who uses those lies to further his/their own goals and agendas.
Hopefully, we make it to 2008, and when we do there's no more vote fraud allegations (many of which are pretty damning, at that) and whomever is presented as a serious presidential canidate has a better resume than both GWB and John Kerry put together.
Coz I don't want Hillary Clinton as president, but I'm willing to give her my vote over any of the Bush crew.
Just to head off the inevitable arguments, yes I do support the troops (so much so I'd like to see them come home and do something useful than to squat on mineral rights for KBR). Yes, I am in fact a card carrying Communist. No, despite the fact that I'd like to live in a foreign country, I won't move: Its too difficult. Anything else? Wait, wait.. Seriously, my only suggestion is that all of you think long and hard about who's running hte country and where its going. Seriously, that's it. OK, carry on.
Mike Irwin
Staff
"Okay, I'm not going to get into a huge political discussion here, because the President Bush Lovers are just like the anti gun people. No matter what you tell them, or how much you try to reason with them, they never see the light. They need something or someone to focus their Love on, and once they pick a target you might as well forget it."
Problem is, there's an astounding lack of reason in the Bush haters crowd, as well.
My boss for example.
Her favorite refrain regarding Iraq is "BUSH LIED BUSH LIED BUSH LIED!" She runs around like a parrot spouting that every chance she gets.
Unfortunately, she's unable to grasp the concept that it wasn't just the United States that thought Iraq had WMDs. The intelligence agencies for most nations around the world -- Israel, Britain, Russia, China, ad inf. -- all believed that Iraq had WMDs.
That's not important, though. Everyone else was wrong, but Bush, because he's Bush, LIED LIED LIED LIED LIED.
At the very same time, Bill Clinton? God forbid you say word one about his "misstatement" to a Federal Grand Jury. No, that wasn't perjury, he was just a troubled man.
This same irrational behavior can really be attributed to anyone who strongly supports a position.
The post directly above mine is a good example of the irrational BS hype that can be drawn into any conversation.
Bush may well go down in history as one of the worst presidents. Only time will tell. During his career Reagan was slated to be one of the worst in history, yet the view of his presidency and accomplishments has changed dramatically in just 20 years.
I do find it to be quite amusing, though, how many Bush haters run around screeching about how Bush is turning the government into a dictatorship.
I'm not sure whether I should view comments such as those with humor, or with pity.
In any event, I really have to wonder what Al Gore's response to 9-11 would have been. I suspect, had he been at the helm, US response would have been tepid, at the very least, the terrorists would have been greatly emboldened, and the US would have gone through round after round of attacks on our soil.
That's simply supposition, of course, but I really feel that it's a lot closer to the reality of what would have happened than not.
Problem is, there's an astounding lack of reason in the Bush haters crowd, as well.
My boss for example.
Her favorite refrain regarding Iraq is "BUSH LIED BUSH LIED BUSH LIED!" She runs around like a parrot spouting that every chance she gets.
Unfortunately, she's unable to grasp the concept that it wasn't just the United States that thought Iraq had WMDs. The intelligence agencies for most nations around the world -- Israel, Britain, Russia, China, ad inf. -- all believed that Iraq had WMDs.
That's not important, though. Everyone else was wrong, but Bush, because he's Bush, LIED LIED LIED LIED LIED.
At the very same time, Bill Clinton? God forbid you say word one about his "misstatement" to a Federal Grand Jury. No, that wasn't perjury, he was just a troubled man.
This same irrational behavior can really be attributed to anyone who strongly supports a position.
The post directly above mine is a good example of the irrational BS hype that can be drawn into any conversation.
Bush may well go down in history as one of the worst presidents. Only time will tell. During his career Reagan was slated to be one of the worst in history, yet the view of his presidency and accomplishments has changed dramatically in just 20 years.
I do find it to be quite amusing, though, how many Bush haters run around screeching about how Bush is turning the government into a dictatorship.
I'm not sure whether I should view comments such as those with humor, or with pity.
In any event, I really have to wonder what Al Gore's response to 9-11 would have been. I suspect, had he been at the helm, US response would have been tepid, at the very least, the terrorists would have been greatly emboldened, and the US would have gone through round after round of attacks on our soil.
That's simply supposition, of course, but I really feel that it's a lot closer to the reality of what would have happened than not.
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