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One more time for all the slow learners...

No one's gonna vote for Arnold 'cause Arnold can't run.
Arnold can't run 'cause of Constitutional requirements.
An amendment has to be ratified to change these facts.
No amendment is gonna be ratified to change these facts.

You are now free to continue to quote me out of context.
 
Perhaps I,too could see the virtues of Hillary(oxymoron?) or Kerry like some apparently have were I not so concerned with the second amendment. Regardless of how they spin themselves during elections, their voting records show they are NOT my friends!

I don't like all of George W.'s decisions ( immigration, border security, etc.) but when he answers a question like this one the way he did, I want to jump up with both my arms upraised and yell,"YES!"
 
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An honest answer. He is hiding. It is interesting how some have such knowledge and wisdom as to know what some other politician would have done regarding UBL. :confused: n. Seems like some of you should become president since you really? have the answers. Oh ignorance, thou art bliss. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: So easy for the weak to sit in safety and little responsibility to know how to lead the free world with all of the information they have at their disposal. I love free speech.
 
So easy for the weak to sit in safety and little responsibility to know how to lead the free world with all of the information they have at their disposal. I love free speech.
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Yep, Bush haters are all complaints ...and no solutions!! "Big suprise isnt it?"
Well, coming from people who are effected by nothing and only watch T.V, I guess its not all that suprising...figures
 
All for a stained blue dress. What was whitewater about again? Was it a bad loan deal or oral sex? I forgot.
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The blue dress portion was about a sitting president committing perjury, which means lying under oath. It was the very reason the founding fathers included impeachment when creating our government.

News flash: Bush is president and we are in Iraq. Get over it.

Whining about it solves nothing. Packing up and going home proves to our enemies the US has no stomach to stand up for what they believe in. This is the very lesson they learned in Somalia. Give the Americans a bloody nose and they'll run back home and leave you to do whatever you want.

If we fought WWII with the political climate we have today, Germany would own Europe and Japan would own Asia. After the first defeat in North Africa, the Americans would have packed up their toys and went home.

Iran overruns Iraq attacks US forces.
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Iran isn't that stupid. Carter isn't president any longer.

If you read a few of the books written during and right after 9/11 and the Afghanistan invasion, you can see the position taken by Iran, Syria, Libya and a even the PLO.

They were terrified of the US coming after them and were swearing on eveything holy they had nothing to do with 9/11 or with helping Iraq gain WMD. After a few months, when the antis/liberals started their standard grandstanding about military action, these same governments got brave again.
 
Hell, Eskabar stayed hidden for 16 months and he was in the same town the entire time (more or less). I doubt Bin Laden has been sitting around Afganistan waiting for the US to find him. Bin Ladens not stupid, he went home (where its safe from the US ever getting into) ;)
 
YEA, Clinton and Gore could do a better job, wait, they were offered him a few times, but turned the capture or killing down....wonder why?
 
They were hamstrung by something called US law. Clinton did authorise the cia to kill him though. Does that help?
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Since when has that stopped Clinton. I am sure Bush has authorized the killing of Bin Laden. But unlike Clinton, Bush has not been offered Bin Laden.
 
I have a solution. Impeach Bush.
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Grounds?
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Clinton's failed war on terror

As he prepared for yesterday's opening of his presidential library, Bill Clinton was, true to form, spinning about his herculean efforts to stop Osama bin Laden and other jihadists. As Mr. Clinton told ABC-TV's Peter Jennings in this rambling, somewhat defensive-sounding explanation of his record: "If you look at the 9/11 commission's report about what we did, and how we prepared for, we had the 9/11-style threats for the millennium. And the extent of our preparations, and the work we did, the number of terrorists we brought to justice, the 20 al Qaeda cells we broke up, if you look at all that, and the fact that we apparently came closer to getting bin Laden than anybody has since, even though they have a lot more options — military options — than we had. I wish I had gotten him."
What Mr. Clinton neglected to mention, however, is that during his eight years as president, he failed to make effective use of the many options that were available to him in combating bin Laden and other terrorists, making September 11 much more likely. In his book "Losing Bin Laden," investigative journalist Richard Miniter documents some of the Clinton administration's policy failures.
From the beginning, it was apparent that intelligence matters were not a priority for Mr. Clinton. James Woolsey, CIA director during Mr. Clinton's first two years in office, was never able to get a one-on-one meeting with Mr. Clinton. The president's lack of interest in intelligence matters enabled Sen. Dennis DeConcini, who had developed an intense personal dislike of Mr. Woolsey, to block the hiring of CIA Arabic-language translators.
Mr. Clinton took the politically safe path by treating the February 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center as a criminal matter rather than the terrorist attack that it really was. As a result, he shut the CIA out of the investigation. Administration blundering enabled Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, a top bin Laden aide who coordinated the September 11 attacks, to escape capture in Qatar. The Clinton administration refused offers by the government of Sudan to turn over bin Laden and objected to efforts by the Northern Alliance — the anti-Taliban coalition in Afghanistan — to assassinate the terrorist leader. Mr. Clinton refused several offers by Sudan to take custody of two terrorists wanted in the August 1998 bombings of American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. On three occasions in 1999 and 2000, Mr. Clinton deferred or hesitated to launch missile strikes against bin Laden. This is but a partial listing of instances documented by Mr. Miniter in which the Clinton administration passed up opportunities to kill bin Laden and/or weaken his terror network.
The reality is, Mr. Clinton's self-serving spin to the contrary, myriad errors of omission and commission by his administration weakened this country's response to the al Qaeda threat and made the horror of September 11 much more likely.
 
I dont blame Clinton for 9/11. I blame him for being a retard where terrorism is concerned.


All you need to know about Clinton can be summed up in a quote from him, i am paraphrasing here: "If the personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution inhibit the government's ability to govern the people, we should look to limit those guarantees."
 
Okay, I'm not going to get into a huge political discussion here, because the President Bush Haters are just like the anti gun people. No matter what you tell them, or how much you try to reason with them, they never see the light. They need something or someone to focus their hate on, and once they pick a target you might as well forget it.

I mean come on. While the President is responsible, as the head of our country, he is not the sole person responsible for the current problems in the US. This country has been going to hell for so long that its almost hard to remember anything else. People speak of the president like he's some guy who raped their sister. Its personal hate, and its not only stupid, but it shows really low intelligence on the part of those people. Oh how soon people forget how horrible other recent leaders have been. I mean how many of us have ever, ever been handed our 40 acres and a mule so to speak, by ANY administration. Get real people. This country is in sad shape
because of all these years of sissy, liberal, wishy-washyness that everyone has been buying into. No one will stand up for anything anymore, for fear of
hurting someones feelings. Let people do whatever they want or you'll offend them. And if you do DARE, I mean DARE to say something, your some horrible monster.

The FACT of the matter is, a guy like Sadaam needed to go away, period.
No matter what the reason, or the circumstances, the guy HAD TO GO.
What he was doing to those people was WRONG. It was HORRIBLE. I'd much rather die in war than be tortured out of hand by a power mad idiot for ANYTHING! But of course, it wasn't america's problem....its not OUR families being tortured and mistreated. When are people going to realize that it WAS WRONG what he was doing, and SOMEONE had to STAND UP FOR INNOCENT PEOPLE, reguardless of the reasons, or the COST. Why is that so hard to see? What if America had felt that way when the Jews were being slaughtered? Is Hitler really so different than Sadaam? What would have happened if we wouldn't have helped then? Oh, but all that is so easily forgotten. What makes this country so great, IS the freedom, in every form. But what KEEPS us great is the fact that we as a country are not afraid to do what needs to be done, no matter the cost. And before you all start flaming, I have more than a few family members over in the sand right this second, and I support and am DAMN PROUD of every one of them, and the country they serve........
 
I find it depressing how some can take the perjury trial of Bill Clinton and link it only to a stained dress, when the connection had nothing to do with the dress or Monica at all. It had to do with an American citizen who swore out charges against the man.

Of course, he could lie through his teeth about the whole thing and the spinners make the false connection to a dress.

It's good to be the King.....................
 
Yep, Bush haters are all complaints ...and no solutions!!
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That is truly funny. If I had more life to waste I could dig up all my old posts from before the war started. Some of us "complainers" had this stupid idea that throwing the kitchen sink at Osama Bin laden while he was cornered in Afghanistan might be a better use of the armed forces than invading a country whose secular dictator is the only man on earth who hates Bin laden more than we do.... of course, most of our troops had to be witheld because of the upcoming invasion and so the man behind 9/11 hopped on a camel and cruised into Pakistan. But what did we know, we were just a bunch of complainers trying to tell people the facts about all that has come out into the mainstream.
 
I'm not going to get into a huge political discussion here, because the President Bush Haters are just like the anti gun people. No matter what you tell them, or how much you try to reason with them, they never see the light.
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My 2 cents worth. I support Mr. Bush.

I was young and idealistic then Mr. Kennedy and Mr. Johnson nearly tore our nation apart with their mistakes in southeast Asia. Time passed and I had the chance to join the military and serve for a number of years, luckily under no one more inept than Mr. Carter. However I resigned my military commision in 1993 when Mr. Clinton authorized our troops to guard an UN mission to Somalia without anything approaching proper planning nor support. I watched as a civilian when he supported the UN weapons embargo to the former Yugoslavian republics which led to the wholesale slaughter of unarmed civilians and unbalanced the region. I pondered the situation when, after a balance of sorts was reached he threw his support toward a nation which was run by former Communist thugs, bombing the most advanced nation in the region back to the stone age. I winced when he destroyed pharmaceutical plants in Africa while steadfastly ignoring the wars there which were killing and enslaving thousands of Christians and Animists.

I really thought about asking to return to duty during the present administration, but I realized that sooner or later there will be another Democrat in office and I will not do military duty under another. I will be civil about it, but I do not respect their level of situational awareness.
 
As always, when you have no answer:

And yet somehow "Kerry" would have been a better choice?
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I said Kerry was a loser. But please explain how that gives Bush a pass on all the screw ups and wasted lives he has squandered? And why that refrain (in your mind) is the answer when people demand Bush be accountable?

I REALLY don't get it.
 
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I've always thought it a hoot that anyone who claims to hold the 2nd Amendment high could consider voting for Kerry over Bush. There's no shortage of complaints against Bush, but on the Gun Ownership issue, Kerry is an anti-gunner. :cool:
 
Ya Kerry would be a real leader?

Get real.......this is a pro gun forum........ Mr. Kerry votes against gun ownership and against things most of us in here live for. Let see did you get fooled when he went to Ohio for a quick little P.R. hunt trip???? Sorry that was a big joke and anyone with a 1/4 brain smelled that one out.

The Dem's got beat......in a fair and legal vote that drew out some 60% of the American legal voters. He lost......... He lost.......... He lost...........
and now Barbie Boxer trys to spin the Condi Rice appointment.....go figure
and when your beat your beat.......man I get tired of the whole media bla bla.

In 4 years they can run a new idea past the voters and maybe that will work... ya go vote for Bill and his wife.......you like your gun rights?????

And last off.......... Did Clinton tell the nation he messed up the Somalia ordeal..........no - His actions and failure to act caused some of our best special forces members to be killed in action. So if we want to start with the Bush was wrong and caused all this we best take a step back into time. Had Clinton taken strong stands when he could have (example) Binny Boy... 2X's could have been ours........Hmmmmmmmm guess he was busy or just didn't care to act on it?
If I could have one wish I would wish that American's of all walks would come together on the same team and work as one and fight as one and beat those enemies both here and there...the ones that cut off heads of our countrymen............ Seems some folks forget too quickly.......I don't and I remember history and I for one damn sure don't want it repeated.... and with that said I guess I draw the patriotic line........what side you on? :D

*Let me say Bush isn't perfect but he is our leader.....He is human and has made some mistakes.......so have I so have you......... As our leader I don't think he has to kiss any CNN or network reporters A** and say I'm sorry.... I am sure he is sorry to send our brave men and women into combat. A strong leader won't be liked by many.....only in time and history will his positive attributes be noted..... He isn't a great speaker but his actions speak louder than his words.... LETS ACT LIKE AMERICAN'S and back our leader....
 
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