Y'all forgive me. I done messed up.

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Will Beararms

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I went into Bachman Pawn and Gun in Dallas, TX on Tuesday. They had a NIB Smith and Wesson 3953 DA Only 9mm for $379.00 + tax. I picked it up and it was the best feeling, concealable pistol I have ever had in my hand----------------bar none---------------PPK, Sig 232, HK P7, Mak, Sig 239, et al, ad nauseum.

I bought it this afternoon. I know. I know. They are traitors and I know their Semi's are not always the best but I gotta tell you, the workmanship on the exterior, anyway is great.

Y'all forgive me. I done messed up.
 
Like the one rifleman on the firing squad

that receives the blank shell, you 'may' have bought one of the pre-treason models.:p You'll just never really know, now will you?:eek:
 
I understand...last gun show I almost got weak myself when I saw a "Mountain Backpacker" and a .44 Special "Mountain Lite" NIB on a dealer's table. It would be much easier if it was Lorcin that signed the agreement....

I am looking for a Smith 3913LS myself, but I'll stick to a pre-owned model.
 
And how...........................

I have always been biased against S&W but I have heard that the 39XX series is an excellent product and the fit and feel is.......well, let's say seductive.
 
No doubt it was an agreement model.....

Unless,,,,,they put those idiotic, stupid Mass labels on after the fact. Get a load of this:

"Smith and Wesson is required to include the following under Massachusetts law. Warning from the Massachusetts Attorney General: This handgun is not equipped with a device that fully blocks use by unauthorized users. More than 200,000 firearms like this one are stolen from their owners every year in the United States. In addition, there are more than a thousand suicides each year by younger children and teenagers who get access to firearms. Hundreds more die from accidental discharge. It is likely that many more children sustain serious wounds or inflict such wounds accidentally on others. In order to limit the chance of such misuse, it is imperative that you keep this weapon locked in a secure place and take other steps necessary to limit the possibility of theft or accident. Failure to take reasonable preventative steps may result in innocent lives being lost, and in some circumstances may result in your liability for these deaths.

Massachusetts: controlled by namby-pamby, nickle-dime lawyers.
 
Maybe they should use this label:

Smith & Wesson is required to include the following under the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution Of The United States. It is your right to own this firearm. It is your responsibility to use it wisely. Since you're a full-grown adult, S&W will not insult your intelligence by lecturing you as if you were a child, or mentally "slow".
 
A Boycott is:

boy-cott,

To abstain from or act together in abstaining from using, buying, or dealing with as an expression of protest or disfavor or as a means of coercion.



Tony
 
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Congratulations on your purchase, and I couldn't give a rats-ass if it was pre or post agreement. You will have to forgive me for becoming bored with the rantings of the anti S&W group. The S&W 3953 is an excellent concealment piece and I am certain you will be pleased with it.

mlk18
 
Congratulations. A percentage of your purchase price went to efforts to eliminate the 2nd Amendment and your right to own that weapon.

I wonder if any Jews signed up for the Nazi party because the uniforms were nifty or they wanted a Luger.
 
I do hope that while you were pissing on the rights of those who aren't too bored to care about their rights, or who are smart enough to understand them and what the Smith & Wesson agreement means to all gunowners, that you saved some for yourself.

Absolutely disgusting, and utterly reprehensible.

You want forgiveness? True contrition is required for forgiveness, not a snicker accompanied by a hangdog look and crossed fingers.

Now be a good lad and be sure to make out a check to Handgun Control Incorporated.
 
The issue is deeper and probably fit for legal and political..............

That said, we must ask oursleves how this country has gotten in a state of affairs whereby the liberal politicians pit legitimate businesses against the public. Certainly, S&W or Ruger would have not done what they did if there had been a mass outcry by the public.

The scarry thing is if we are ever in a situation where the Congress and the White House are controlled by Democrats, we may see all firearms companies undertake anti-gun activities or go under. Interestingly enough, Rush Limbaugh stated yesterday that the Democrats are backing down from their stance on gun control due to the fact that their votes have been lost in the South and all over the country from White males.

Make no mistake about it: many gun manufacturers are based in countries where socialist governments are in place and they are prepared to supply only military and police orders at a moment's notice. I believe these entities love the money from private citizens in America and the margins that can be made. It is up to us to stay in front of the politicians and let them know they will lose our votes.

Quite frankly, I hope that Smith and Wesson will renig on the HUD Deal with the new ownership. Look at it from this perspective: why hasn't Bush already negated this deal? Huh? I would be dishonest if I didn't tell you that I would love to see Smith improve the quality of their semi-autos and get back into the running for military and police contracts. I for one would rather my tax dollars be spent on American-made products versus those made by companies that although have a domestic plant are owned overseas.
 
The problem of anti-semitism in the Europe reached beyond the borders of Germany. Russia, Poland, Romania and other nations were ripe for any sort of reprisals against the Jews.

It just so happened that a half-jew named Hitler mobilized a nation against his own mother's people and used the seeds already well-germinated in other lands to his advantage.

Believe me no Jews were interested in any aspect of the Nazi Party save Hitler who under Mosaic Law was a Jew himself.

Dachau is nine miles from Munich. Yeah right, no one knew. Don't worry about the Jews, they are well prepared to take care of themselves.
 
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Enjoy the S&W. I believe that HCI etc. are enjoying seeing all the crap that is being heaped on S&W. Remember that one of their goals is to create as many problems for the domestic firearms manufacturers as possible. MAYBE we shouldn't be so fast to help! Nobody liked the deal but nobody should like seeing any DOMESTIC business being financially hurt.... Just my 2 cents
 
I cannot believe some of you...

It amazes me how many people will ridicule and call you a turn-coat-bastard for buying a gun. Oh yes, I can surely see how Will Beararms' buying a handgun has single handedly destroyed the 2nd ammendment rights of everyone of us! Where those people who now refuse to purchase S&W firearms, which may very well cost them enough money that they go under, is a grand and proud step forward for all gun owners. Yes, you must be right destroying an old prestigeous gun manufacturer is PRO gun, but buying firearms from them is ANTI gun. R-i-d-i-c-u-l-o-u-s. And another reason why we are losing the political battle. Let's use some common sense people and SUPPORT each other (and ALL gun related manufacturers, wholesalers and retailers) in the 2nd ammendment cause. Or we could just infight until the guns are all gone.

MLK
 
If Smith & Wesson going under means that no other firearms manufacturer signs a similar agreement with ANY governmental entity, then they are an acceptable loss.

Quite frankly, the second that Smith & Wesson agreed to the government's extortion, they became a liability, no longer an asset, to Americans who are concerned about the preservation of rights left to us by those who founded this country.

Are people so truly naieve and complacent that they can't see the danger that this agreement poses to our rights?

Have you even read the full text of the agreement MLK18, not the sanatized, homogenized, sterilized, and emasculated version that apologists like Cameron Hopkins attempt to foist off on the uninformed and uncaring?

Are you familiar with what Smith & Wesson agreed to do?

With the amount of control over operations and marketing the company gave to the Government?

I can only assume that you're not.

Certainly one person selling out his rights doesn't mean much. But where there is one, there are likely others. Where there are others, there can be a movement, and where there is a movement, rights that belong to everyone can be irreparably and permanently lost.
 
Kev55,

HCI's goal was to first have every manufacturer sign an agreement closely matching the one signed by Smith & Wesson as an introductory step towards eventually strangling, through governmental intervention, the sale of handguns, and eventually all firearms, to law-abiding citizens.

By many accounts, other companies were close to signing the same, or a smiliar agreement to infringed on OUR rights, and allow unprecedented governmental intervention and control in a private manufacturing concern.

The consumer backlash against Smith & Wesson showed other companies the cost of agreeing to the Clinton Administration's extortion.

As such, no other manufacturer or distributor in the United States has signed a similar agreement.

Just how does HCI benefit from that?

Simply put, they DON'T.

For the market share that Smith & Wesson has rightfully lost, other companies, companies NOT bound by such an agreement, have benefitted.

If anything, Smith & Wesson apologists and those who continue to purchase S&W products are doing HCI's bidding by breaking down consumer resistance to similar extra-legal governmental fiats in the future.

Congratulations. Without realizing it, you've become a front-line activist for HCI.

That's what going to tear the firearms rights movement apart, NOT boycotting the actions of a single company that works against the rights that belong to all law-abiding Americans.
 
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