Glenn E. Meyer
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Depends on the distance. There are techniques taught for the close ones. OPS, Insights, KRtraining have them in advanced classes. I might use them.
This is really off the tactic thrust but I always thought it would make a neat Law and Order episode where a couple in marital strife fell into this situation. The shooter spouse was master level and double tapped quickly into the head of both. Cried at the death of the wife.
The DA team had to prove that at that level of skill it was deliberate.
I thought of this at an IDPA match where a guy squarely shot the hostage with his HK 45 and then opined - Well, I didn't like her anyway.
Also at shotgun class and matches, the hostage shot were you had to match your pattern to the target was sometimes called - Saving the EX-wife. Oops.
Sorry for the morbid diversion.
Springmom - how could this happen? I'll tell you from the Cracker Barrel scenario on the old tactics list. I made it up.
Wife and I were in Cracker Barrel. As I was paying the bill, she was looking at the junk in the store. I see two cops come in and start to talk to the manager - whom I'm near. They are looking for a guy. Having heard this, I get wife and say we are out of here. She say we - I say Cops and we vamoose at deliberate speed. Then a slew of cars arrive and as we watch from our car (no use driving into the melee) - they enter and drag out a screaming dude.
Later, I find out they were chasing him, and he ran into the store. They had to find him admist the crowded store.
It would be very easy for said dude to enter the store - you have no knowledge of him being a bad guy, he sees the cops pull up and grabs you or someone else. Without spidersense, Cooper conditions be damned, you would probably be grabbed.
This is really off the tactic thrust but I always thought it would make a neat Law and Order episode where a couple in marital strife fell into this situation. The shooter spouse was master level and double tapped quickly into the head of both. Cried at the death of the wife.
The DA team had to prove that at that level of skill it was deliberate.
I thought of this at an IDPA match where a guy squarely shot the hostage with his HK 45 and then opined - Well, I didn't like her anyway.
Also at shotgun class and matches, the hostage shot were you had to match your pattern to the target was sometimes called - Saving the EX-wife. Oops.
Sorry for the morbid diversion.
Springmom - how could this happen? I'll tell you from the Cracker Barrel scenario on the old tactics list. I made it up.
Wife and I were in Cracker Barrel. As I was paying the bill, she was looking at the junk in the store. I see two cops come in and start to talk to the manager - whom I'm near. They are looking for a guy. Having heard this, I get wife and say we are out of here. She say we - I say Cops and we vamoose at deliberate speed. Then a slew of cars arrive and as we watch from our car (no use driving into the melee) - they enter and drag out a screaming dude.
Later, I find out they were chasing him, and he ran into the store. They had to find him admist the crowded store.
It would be very easy for said dude to enter the store - you have no knowledge of him being a bad guy, he sees the cops pull up and grabs you or someone else. Without spidersense, Cooper conditions be damned, you would probably be grabbed.