Would you give up your guns?

If it's time to bury them, it's time to dig them up.

If you have nothing worth dieing for, you likely have nothing worth living for.

I understand and sympathize with the LEO perspective that's been stated (between the lines) I wouldn't want to be in your shoes either.

I understand WilddontwanttobeonalistsohastotalkthatwayAlaska's facade also.;)

I hope no good guys walk up on my porch with M4's. Please stay home that day.

Of course I know I'll probably die. Overwhelming force as stated. The same kind of odds were upon our forfathers also don't forget! If I manage to take a few with me, maybe the morale of the rest will be affected. Join a Militia? Nah. I am a Militia of one until the neighbrohood bands together against the tyranny. What a sad thread.:(
 
My family, my dogs, my guns and myself would have been long gone before the confiscation squads came a-calling.:D

The house and contents are insured - what the storm didn't destroy, the looters can have. Why should I care if the insurance company loses money?

And I'd never again live in New Orleans, where a petty tyrant leftist moron of a mayor and his lap dog police chief play God with the Bill of Rights.
 
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I really can't decide which thread subject matter makes me wonder what in the hell some folks have to do around here to get a rise out of some of the members.

For example; STHF threads, Gun grabs by our local & federal JBT, or the ever present how much gun for mutant bears?

What do all these subjects have in common? The possibility of it happening in my or your lifetime is = nill.

Was it not the owner of this place wanting to raise the bar, how does this type of material further that endeavor? [Other than allowing alot of Chest thumping and posturing by some around here].
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Do you live in a cave????? Do you not watch the news, read the newspaper or pay attention in general?? Do you not see the likes of Hilary Clinton and Lurch Kerry? These people are out to take away EVERYONES second amendment rights.. I have often wondered about what I would do in this case, it is a very scary thought!!
 
You can't seriously think you would survive. You would not stand a chance.
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There comes a time when a man's life is worth less than his honor and principles. That is the time when a man takes necessary action, knowing that there is no chance to survive. Are there no principles and beliefs for which you are willing to die?
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True & true.

There also comes a point where you just-don't-give-a-damn.

Might get brushed aside like a gnat in a windstorm,,,but at least I'd meet my Maker standing - look Him in the eye and tell Him I gave it my best when I checked out.
 
Might get brushed aside like a gnat in a windstorm,,,but at least I'd meet my Maker standing - look Him in the eye and tell Him I gave it my best when I checked out.
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But don't you think it would be better to fall back and regroup? This is not a "it's the thought that count's" situation. Dieing for you principles is one thing, but what did you accomplish as opposed to surviving and making your will have an effect. I've got kids, if I go out in a blaze of glory then that's all they have, a martyr. If I survive the situation, I can help rectify it, by voice or by force. If all the good guys committed suicide like that, there would be no'one left to do that, no hope, no future. We must survive persecution. It can do nothing but strengthen us.
 
If I survive the situation, I can help rectify it, by voice or by force.
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When it gets to that point the voice has failed. Now your willing to give up your arms, regroup, then use force?

If all the good guys committed suicide like that, there would be no'one left to do that, no hope, no future
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Committing suicide is taking your own life, the goal here is to take as many of them with you as possible. Thats less my fellow country men and children have to worry about. History has proven your way and thinking is flawed, actually it's that thinking that brought us to this point in the first place.

kenny b
 
Martial Law....Gun confiscations

Before my family moved to the US (over 20 some odd years ago), we lived in SE Asia, specifically in the Philippines.

In the 1970's, a dictator known as Ferdinand Marcos declared Martial Law and had police run around and confiscate guns from the Law Abiding citizens there. They used the gun registrations to find addresses and take the weapons.

Some folks gave up their guns, because getting into a firefight with your family in the next room - not a smart thing. Other folks, who knew that it was coming buried their guns waited until the smoke was clear and then dug them up again a few months later.

Some gave up some guns and buried others.

I would expect that a variety of folks here in the US would react the same way if a NO type situation happened nationally. Be smart about the situation, if they raid your house with Bullet Resistant jackets and AR's will your HD gun be able to hold off a squad that is heavily armed?

To be killed in combat is one thing, to be killed when there is no need to be shot is another.
 
After thinking for a while I would probably letem have a couple of my junk stuff Muzzleloader, 22 rimfire, and maybe a pistol or two and hide the rest. I would hope after all this goes down there would be some sort of resistance group getting together to fight, then I'd probably dig them up and go join up. I like a previous poster' I've got a family, if they come to get my guns and I resist and get myself killed not only have I gained nothing but the authorities would most likely make me look like a criminal which is what the leftys that want our guns are shooting for anyway.
 
Yes, by God, one does get to choose.
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Nope you're taking the statement out of context....one does not get to pick and chooose what valid laws he will obey does he. One is either a citizen or a criminal.


WildtheoldlawvsindividualmoralityargumentAlaska
 
this thread reminds me of a movie

called the Patriot with Mel Gibson

at the beginning of the movie Gibson opposes going to war -

paraphased he says - I have a family and children to take care of, my wife is dead and who will take care of them if I am gone - he goes on to say that - this war will not be fought in some far away place, it will be fought here in our towns, on our land and our homes in the midst of our families and neighbors.

those thoughts are obviously reflected in this thread.

He also says because of the above when asked about his principles - I can't afford principles I have a family and chidren.


Yet, of course later he turns and fights

In a later scene the British take his oldest son to hang him and in the process his second son is shot and killed. Gibson's character doestn't shoot it out then and there, but waits and then gets his guns and ambushes the party taking his son to hang.


So, it is not black and white - yea or nay.


Still in the end if one does not have anything they believe that is greater than themselves and their life - then they have nothing. Better to live and die for something than nothing.
 
It strikes me that people are not neccessarily helpless pawns in this sort of debancle. The choice is more shades of grey than simple black and white.

What about the people who decided three or five years ago that the coast was too crowded and lawless so they moved out of the blue city and into the red countryside? What of the people who bothered to listen to the news of hurricanes on the way so loaded their guns and valuables into a truck or trailer and left? What of those who had their guns confiscated and filed lawsuits? It occurs to me that the best way to survive a gunfight is arrange to be elsewhere when the fight ocurs.

Nope you're taking the statement out of context....one does not get to pick and chooose what valid laws he will obey does he. One is either a citizen or a criminal.
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Wild I think the operant word there is valid laws. Don't you agree? What if all the monkees in the tree got together and voted to pass a law negating gravity? :rolleyes:
 
meek we get back to the old debate...who makes the laws under our system of government...the People as a whole within the framework of the USC or the individual?

The Constituion is the Supreme Law of the Land..the Supreme Court decides what that law is..they make mistakes (they are human) but what other choice do we have. We can protest, elect right minded people, work hard to change the law...but to "vote from the rooftops?" Gimme a break. If half the nergy devoted on these threads was devoted to the ins and outs of political activism our time would be better served?

I just dont think that advocating violence over a hypothetical legal issue puts gun owners in a good lighjt. I think capital punishment is unconstituional, does that mean I should be busting death row prisoners out of jail. I think discriminating against gay marraige is wrong, should I start shooting judges that wont marry me and my boyfriend. I think abortion is wrong, should I start assainating Drs and bombing clinics.

Are we going to move into the mainstream or always be looked upon as wild eyed fruitcakes.

WildjustonemansopinionAlaska
 
just dont think that advocating violence over a hypothetical legal issue puts gun owners in a good lighjt.
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This thread is not about a hypothetical legal issue. It is about VIDEO of US Soldiers and LEOs breaking into American homes and taking their arms at gunpoint. This is question of self defense and self preservation.
 
The Constituion is the Supreme Law of the Land..
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Let us not forget the Constitution does not give us the right to own firearms and protect ourselves under the law, it protects our right to do so as an american citizen. When these fundemental rights are gone so is law as we know it. It starts from the base up, not the top down. That is the reason the 2nd amendment is there in the first place.

kenny b
 
hiding your guns then regrouping and ambush is your best bet if you want to fight. but i would never do that i would just give up my guns and say its for the best, i only have one
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Guns?

Neighbor ="No officer, he ain't here now & neither are his guns........... He heard you were coming to pay him a call, & said he was going "hunting" - didn't say what, or who.":p
 
No i don't live in a cave - seen these types of threads with the big "what if".

What happened to all those guns that were confiscated?

Have any of your guns ever been taken by law enforcement or any other government agency for any legitimate reason?

Scare tactics is all it amounts to. As far as Hillary or Kerry taking anyones guns away - never will happen.

The gun owners of America are the marrow of this country. Always have been always will be. No two bit politician will ever erase this legacy.

There are far many more important and critical issues that face America today, the so called gun grabbers are low on that list.

12-34hom.
 
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