I realize this is an old thread but I'm a new guy here. I've been reading all the comments and the 90% of the comments are against the .25. That being said most we're about one shot stop. I don't know where most have been trained but my training is not one shot and see if he gets up, it's a Dbl tap and my wife can put three center mass with her .25 all day. The Follow up shot is as important as the primary. the .25 has a 25% one shot knock down BUT what about 2 shots? is it additive or a multiple? I would guess in my experience Multiple do to shock trauma. Also for those that say "I heard of a guy" or "I knew a guy", here’s documented cases from the Armed Citizen to prove the .25 is a viable CCW weapon.
Also here's a link to a chart sowing shootings.
http://www.handloads.com/misc/stoppingpower.asp?Caliber=3&Weight=All
Intruders shot, cut by 74-year-old man, police say
State police say a 74-year-old man shot one intruder and cut another at his home west of Lewes. The intruders fled but were later arrested by police.
The incident happened about 6:20 p.m. Thursday in the 19000 block of Bee Jay Lane, off Beaver Dam Road.
Sgt. Walter Newton said the homeowner arrived back at the house and found an empty SUV in his driveway and a side door that had been locked was open. He then found the front door had been kicked in.
Two men — later identified by police as Paul L. Spencer, 43, and Gregory B. Stewart, 49, both of Lincoln — approached the homeowner at the side door and said they were ?looking to purchase a dump truck,? Newton said.
The homeowner told them to leave, but they continued toward him. Spencer crossed the threshold and grabbed a landscaping tool and threatened the homeowner, Newton said. The homeowner took a machete from next to the door and swung it at Spencer, striking him several times in his right forearm and hand.
?Both suspects continued toward the homeowner, which caused him to fire two .25 caliber rounds from a handgun. One of the bullets struck Stewart in his abdomen,? Newton said.
Both Lincoln men then fled, but Stewart was arrested at Milford Memorial Hospital, where he was admitted for treatment of a gunshot wound, Newton said.
Police later located Spencer at his home and charged him with burglary, conspiracy, menacing and criminal mischief. He was treated for cuts to his right arm and committed to Sussex Correctional Institution. Bail information was not immediately available.
Warrants were on file charging Stewart with the same offenses, Newton said. He was reported in stable condition at the hospital.
The homeowner was not injured.
?Castle doctrine? law forces shooter?s release, prosecutor says
A man who police said shot his Wal-Mart co-worker in a dispute over the length of a work break has been released from custody because his actions may be protected by Montana’s recently enacted “castle doctrine” law.
The shooting, which took place Monday evening, is under investigation by the Billings Police Department and could still result in charges. But Yellowstone County Attorney Dennis Paxinos said language in the “castle doctrine” bill passed during the last session of the Montana Legislature required him to release the shooter until more information becomes available.
The law asserts, among other things, that a person has a “natural right” to use firearms for self-defense and is not required to summon law enforcement assistance before using “justifiable” force to ward off an attack.
“The play of (House Bill) 228 with the current law causes us some pause to do a much more thorough investigation to determine if we can charge anyone,” Paxinos said.
When police arrived at the Wal-Mart on King Avenue West at about 9:15 p.m. Monday, they found Daniel Lira, 32, inside the store’s loading dock area with a gunshot wound.
Billings Police Sgt. Jay Berry said that Lira hit co-worker Craig Schmidt, 49, in the face. Schmidt fell backward, then pulled out a .25-caliber semiautomatic Beretta handgun and shot Lira, police said. The single shot was fired at a range of 10 to 15 feet.
Lira, 32, was taken to St. Vincent Healthcare and later released. Police Sgt. Kevin Iffland said the bullet grazed the side of his head from front to back.
Home invasion suspect shot, killed by resident; four others arrested
One of two men who forced their way into a Williston-area home early Wednesday was shot to death by one of the home?s occupants, a shooting that authorities described as self-defense.
The second suspected intruder, along with three alleged accomplices, are in jail after an investigation by Marion County sheriff?s deputies of the attempted home invasion robbery.
Investigators said the home invasion occurred about 2:30 a.m. at the home Roger Dan Garrison, 49, in the 19000 block of Northwest County Road 335.
Two of the suspects, Jonathan Gaal, 19, of Ocala, and Brian Bond, 19, of Summerfield, forced their way inside as three alleged accomplices awaited nearby in a car. According to sheriff?s investigators, Garrison?s brother, Martin Randy Garrison, 54, was asleep on a couch in the living room and had a .25-caliber handgun under the couch. When Gaal pointed a handgun at Martin Garrison, the older man fired three shots at Gaal at point-blank range.
Gaal ran out of the home, but collapsed and died in the front yard.
Would-be robber picks wrong motel, gets shot
A motel clerk shot and critically wounded a masked man early Tuesday during an apparent armed robbery in North Charleston.
Christopher Robert Barr, 34, told police that a man in a ski mask ran into the lobby at America’s Best Inns & Suites on Fain Street about 1:20 a.m., pointed something at him and demanded money, according to a police report. But the clerk had a gun as well.
Barr fired twice, the man walked a few feet and fell to the ground.
“Don’t move. Don’t aim,” Barr can be heard telling the man during a 911 call to police. “He’s hurt. I just shot at him. He’s on the ground. He needs help, like bad. He’s still alive, and he needs help.”
Police found a black pistol on the ground near the wounded man, the report said.
James Brandon Johnson, 20, of Clements Avenue in North Charleston, was critically wounded, according to the report. He will be charged with attempted robbery, police spokesman Spencer Pryor said.
Pryor said there were no charges against Barr on Tuesday night and that police continue to investigate the incident. Pryor wasn’t sure whether Barr was the registered owner of the .25-caliber pistol he used or if he was legally permitted to carry it, but he hoped to have answers to those questions today.
Hobart man arrested after he’s shot
A shooting last week led to an arrest Monday — the person who was shot.
Lawrence Halt, 43, took two shots to the chest and hand in from a handgun fired by Michael Peco, 39.
Peco shot Halt in his own home, apparently acting in self-defense, said Lt. Leo Finnerty of the Hobart Police. The Lake County Prosecutor’s office is not filing charges against Peco.
Instead, Halt was charged with four felony counts Friday for trespassing, strangulation and two counts of criminal confinement.
Shortly before 6:30 p.m. June 26, Halt walked from his home in the 100 block of North Guyer Street and approached Peco, sitting on his porch on the 100 block of North Wilson Street.
Halt told Peco he wanted to work on his air conditioning unit, but Peco refused, according to court documents. Eventually, Halt made threatening comments against Peco and placed him in a chokehold.
Peco struggled loose and went inside. Halt entered Peco’s home without permission. Peco retrieved his .25-caliber handgun from the bedroom moments before Halt grabbed him again, placing him in another chokehold, court documents state.
During the struggle, Peco shook loose and fired his gun at Halt. Peco then called 911.
Halt was found by police in the street, standing in a small pool of blood. He told officers that Peco came outside to shoot him. Police found a trail of blood leading from Peco’s home.
Police: Ex-cop shoots attacker, who had been served divorce papers
A retired Kent police officer who was serving legal papers to a town man in a divorce proceeding shot the man in the chest twice yesterday after the man attacked him with a police baton, state police said.
Officers went about 4:30 p.m. to 33 Lincoln Road, where 66-year-old Dennis Illuminate had gone to serve divorce papers on Douglas Greenwich, said Capt. Keith Corlett of the state police.
Greenwich, 52, who was at the house to pick up a dresser, became enraged at the sight of Illuminate, who had served him with legal papers on two previous occasions, Corlett said. Illuminate, who is also a former Kent councilman, fired his licensed .25-caliber handgun, striking Greenwich in the upper torso, but the men continued to struggle, Corlett said. Illuminate fired a second round, which also struck Greenwich in the chest, he said.
Musician acquitted of shooting rival
Jury agrees with his self-defense claim
An Orleans Parish jury on Friday acquitted a musician charged with the attempted murder of a rival jazz band member during a street brawl and shootout in 2003.
The jury accepted the self-defense claim of Lawrence Ketchens, 43, a tuba player with Doreen’s Jazz New Orleans band, who shot Rebirth Brass Band drummer Derrick Tabb, 31, on a 7th Ward street during a clash that began earlier that day at a funeral.
Ketchens testified at criminal district court that he was merely protecting himself and his wife, Doreen Ketchens, whom Tabb had beat to the ground with an umbrella during the skirmish.
The fight on May 20, 2003, quickly turned into gunplay. Ketchens pulled his .25-caliber Raven handgun from his pocket while a friend of Tabb’s, Walter Kimble, raced to a truck to find a .40-caliber gun — a weapon that is standard issue for New Orleans police officers.
Kimble later told police that he blasted at Ketchens in defense of Tabb. Ketchens rolled underneath a parked pickup truck to escape the gunfire and quickly drove off in his van.
When the dust settled, both sides were bloody from injuries. Ketchens suffered a gunshot wound to the thigh and Tabb had two .25-caliber wounds in his upper shoulder. But police arrested only Ketchens for attempted murder of Tabb and his mother, Vana Acker, 51, who was also caught up in the violence. Kimble was never charged.
Accident leads to gunfire
A citizen’s attempt to check out a car-accident scene resulted in gunfire Wednesday afternoon.
Henderson police responded to a traffic accident call at the corner of Water and North Pinkston streets at approximately 3 p.m. Minutes later, the department received reports that a shooting had occurred there.
When officers arrived, they located an individual who reported he had shot another man, Antwan Crudup, 21, of 1843 lot 17 Vicksboro Road, in self-defense. The alleged shooter, whom Henderson Police Chief Glen B. Allen declined to identify since he might not face charges, reportedly claimed that Crudup aggressively approached him and tried to strike him after the accident (Allen said the alleged shooter says he left his vehicle to see what was going on in the collision); Allen said investigations indicate that possibly more than one person approached the alleged shooter at the time.
The alleged shooter voluntarily surrendered a .25 caliber semi-automatic pistol to police and Allen said the man has been cooperative throughout investigations.
Crudup reportedly sustained injuries, none life threatening, after being shot one time and was transported to Maria Parham Medical Center.
Beaumont Man Fires Shots at Intruder
A 63-year-old Beaumont man fired 2 gunshots through his bedroom window early Thursday morning to fend off a burglar. James Hodges says he pulled the .25 caliber pistol from his bedside table when he heard someone break his window then put their arm through it, holding a flashlight.
The intruder fled on foot but a bullet hole on a nearby tree marked the scene of the crime.
Beaumont Police say Hodges` actions were legal, citing that a person has a right to use deadly force if they reasonably fear their life is in danger.
Man’s use of force called justified
Webster police say fatal shooting seems done in self-defense
A Rochester man used justifiable force when he fatally shot another man early Sunday during a frontyard fistfight in Webster, police said.
Donald Krahling, 50, was being badly beaten by Jeffrey Morrison, 43, of Fairport, when he pulled out a concealed handgun and fired one shot into Morrison’s chest about 1:30 a.m., Webster police said.
Police said the shooting appears justified because Morrison was overwhelming the smaller Krahling, who walks with a limp after being injured in the military years ago.
Krahling had properly registered the .25-caliber gun, said Lt. Salvatore Simonetti.
“There is evidence to substantiate his self-defense story,” Simonetti said.
After a brief verbal spat, the 6-foot-1, 220-pound Morrison began pummeling the 5-foot-7, 170-pound Krahling by punching him in the head and face, police said.
After the shooting, Krahling went into the home and yelled to call 911, police said.
