BigMikey76
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Tally up one more "no" for me. I just don't like a manual safety on a carry gun, and Glocks are designed to be carried. Safeties are for range toys.
Would you buy a Glock with manual safety?
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brian33x51
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A glock wasn't designed with a manual safety in mind, sticking one on probably isn't the best thing. If you want a manual safety buy something other than a glock.
After a scare with my glock 20 trigger getting caught up on my tshirt while holstering it I won't conceal carry a glock or any manual safety-less striker fired pistol anymore. I'm okay with it for open carry (safariland holster or the like) or as a house gun stored in a quick release safe.
After a scare with my glock 20 trigger getting caught up on my tshirt while holstering it I won't conceal carry a glock or any manual safety-less striker fired pistol anymore. I'm okay with it for open carry (safariland holster or the like) or as a house gun stored in a quick release safe.
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It's your opinion, and you're entitled to it. I do disagree a bit about "range toys" though. I have the opposite opinion, semi autos WITHOUT a safety are range toys.
Sure, Glocks are meant to be carried. Every small arm that isn't crew served on a ground mount is meant to be carried. Trouble is, the people who are responsible and safe carrying Glocks (and similar guns) don't make the news.
So what do we hear?, we hear about the guy who Mexican carries a Glock in his SWEATPANTS, and when the gun slips (and it will carried like that) he grabs for it and shoots himself in the testicles at Home Depot.
or we hear about the sports star who does something similar at a nightclub, where he's not legally allowed to have a gun...
Or, my personal favorite, the video of the undercover cop at a SCHOOL who tells a class of elementary kids "I am the only one in the room qualified to handle a Glock "Fou-Tay" and then shoots himself in the leg with it.
I'm not picking on the Glock, directly, the gun is mechanically safe. IDIOTS with Glocks are not. And its just my opinion that idiots with Glocks are less safe than the same idiots with pistols that have safeties. Just because there is a chance they will have the safety ON when they have an accident, or lapse of judgment. Not a big chance, I will admit, but a chance, nonetheless. If the safety isn't there, then there's zero chance it can prevent an accident.
Carry what you feel comfortable with, but don't call everything you aren't comfortable with a range toy, because, not all of them are, by any stretch.
I'm fine with the "range toy" that Uncle Sam issued during the greatest armed conflicts in human history, and that he also put in my hands to serve at need.
I'm even ok with the Beretta, (also has a safety) though tis not my favorite or first choice.
We also hear about plenty of trained professionals that messed up 1 time out of 10,000 and ended up have a AD. We are all human and cannot be perfect - on a long enough time line eventually we will all mess up that one time. Its not a question of if but when. For most of us that might not be in our lifetime but when you are on the side of the other side of the statistics where it happened to you, you change your tune really fast.
That seems a bit odd, because Glock has said the reason they didn't enter into recent US trials was the requirement for a manual safety, which Glock said they refused to do.
Got any idea what countries Glock sells their pistol with a safety to??
It's quite possible that the real reason Glock declined to enter the recent trials was a different requirement, that the pistols be modular, and Glock isn't, and they are using the safety requirement as their explanation.
I don't put it past Glock management to say one thing for public consumption and do something else to make a buck, and not advertise it.
Glocks with manual safeties.
If you believe Wikipedia:
This was also mentioned in post #10 in this thread and the link to Wikipedia is:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glock
If you believe Wikipedia:
This was also mentioned in post #10 in this thread and the link to Wikipedia is:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glock
I had a completely negligent discharge with a safety equipped DA/SA pistol when I was young and stupid.
The result was the jettisoning of all unsafe gun handling and the adoption of obsessive chamber checking. I utilize extreme care in reholstering, and whenever the gun is out of the holster.
the Glock system works very well for me sans safety.
The result was the jettisoning of all unsafe gun handling and the adoption of obsessive chamber checking. I utilize extreme care in reholstering, and whenever the gun is out of the holster.
the Glock system works very well for me sans safety.
Negative. I've shot tons of glocks, but never owned one. I think they are fine, no frills, reliable, combat handguns with great aftermarket support. They are not elegant, however. They are ugly, the grip angle is awkward, and I don't care for pulling the trigger to break it down. Nothing like a CZ p-01 or a good 1911 in craftsmanship. Plus I would rank the CZ and a good 1911 up there with Glock in reliability.
I probably will eventually own a Glock. With that being said, I see no need in an external safety on one. Despite its lack of a certain elegance, it does make up for it some with its simplicity. Adding an external safety would needlessly complicate it.
I probably will eventually own a Glock. With that being said, I see no need in an external safety on one. Despite its lack of a certain elegance, it does make up for it some with its simplicity. Adding an external safety would needlessly complicate it.
Cosmodragoon
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I think that firing a weapon in quick defense against extreme, immediate, and unpredictable danger should only require the operation of one control. That reduces to the trigger. It can be DAO or DA/SA. It can have a dingus. I just don't like the idea of fiddling with extra buttons or doodads when a second might be too long and I might not be on my feet.