Glenn E. Meyer
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A short little sentence. Denying the existence of acute stress disorders or PTSD, suggestions to simply man up, etc. are proclamations of your ignorance.
A short little sentence. Denying the existence of acute stress disorders or PTSD, suggestions to simply man up, etc. are proclamations of your ignorance.
Yes and no.I've said it before and I'll say it again: You want more of a behavior, reward it. You want less of a behavior, stress how bad it is, and what an ordeal it is to deal with.
Sure, rewarding a behavior will help to deal with it somewhat.
They had a better time of if than the boys coming back from Vietnam,
There are no contradictions. When you are confronted with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find one of them is wrong.
As a general question that's a bigger can of worms than we can deal with here. As a specific question, I believe that we have done a LOT of "things that help" in terms of dealing with PTSD. A big part of it was getting everyone to admit it actually existed and that it wasn't just a character issue in the people suffering from it. That step took decades, or centuries, depending on how you look at it.So why on earth does Society not do the thing that helps, and stop doing that which makes things worse?
Sure there are. Again, that's a much bigger can of worms than is really appropriate for discussion here.I would submit that there are elements of Society that actively discourage people taking care of themselves.
If you know this area, one interesting fact is that folks left on their own to take care of themselves, tend to self-medicate with alcohol or other substances.
This certainly a good thing as it builds self-reliance and character. It aids in family relationships and work performance.
I think some folks need to drop their expounding of some philosophical tantrum about how we don't have their ideal tough guy society - gleaned from a gun writer or two, movies, etc. - and just face the reality of such problems. I sense in some a preventive denial - as if they are worried they might face some sort of disorder and that weakens their self-image as a gunslinger. One major point to get over is that such things happen to strong people and help is needed.
That might seem a strong or insulting statement but that's my viewpoint. The evidence is clear and if you don't accept it on the grounds that a gunwriter says, blah, blah - I have to suspect other motivations.
Lawnboy - you are continually missing the point. You deliberately misinterpret what I've said repeatedly. Thus you don't contribute to the conversation.
Reread what I said, see if you get it this time. I doubt it
PS - I forgot to mention that an avoidant copying style is one of the biggest predictors for the development of PTSD after a significant critical incident.
Some studies report it puils 41% of the variance.
Thus, my disdain for those in denial that it exists or suggestions that one simply " man-up" because a gun writer said so.
And again for the final exam - not everyone gets it, nor is that claimed, nor is it the case that if you don't, you have a different problem like sociopathy.
The point is that stress disorders do occur and the armed citizen, military, police, etc. should be aware of such and the consequences. So if the symptoms appear 'manning up' may not cut it
lawnboy said:Why would she feel any guilt? She oughta feel the exhilaration of righteous victory.
People are different. Leave it at that.