Will the OPPORTUNITIES be the demise of GWB?

[BIGJACK]

A lot of other folks are wrong. According to the bureau of labor statistics, there were 211 million noninstitutional civilians employed in January 2001. As of December 2005, there are 226 million. A report from bloomberg.com said:

Having trouble transporting the table so here are the stats(number of monthly employee changes x 1000) from DOL as of dec. each year:
92=121 2000=292
93=290 01=-191
94=205 02=-151
95=100 03=-83
96=89 04=-143
97=26 05=168
98=322
99=214

Like I said before, a lot of other folks are wrong.

Again from DOL Unemployment rate as a percentage:
1992=7.5% and fell each year until it reached 4.0% in 2000.
2004=5.5 down to 4.9% for 2005

How many carriage builders are there today? How about blacksmiths? Can you name the last time you met a wheelwright?

A little bit far fetched I would say. The industrial jobs that I speak of are instituional such as Automobile, Airplanes, Paper Mills, Steel and Coal to name a few. Hard to replace these jobs with noninstitutional jobs like flipping burgers the golden arches. Mate of fact, I am baching today, Moma has gone out of town to grand kids gymnastics meet, so I think I will go get me one of them flipped burgers right now.

HAVE A NICE DAY, Guess we just interpret the data differently, hu?

 

[Helmetcase]

Yes BC cut the military budget

One of my favorite myths.
a) Congress controlls the purse strings ultimately.
b) BC's military spending was largely in line with GHWB's before him. Wanna know why? See below.
c) The Cold War ended. Of course spending went down. Do a google search for the term "peace dividend" if any of this is going over your head.

 

[BIGJACK]

Its hard to lay anything specific at a presidents feet but it is generally comprehended that what happens on a particular presidents watch is his responsibility and they are usually held accountable for it. Hope this does not go over your head.

 

[jkkimberfan]

Liberals

Sean Penn, what a stupid hypocrit liberal. He doesn't think YOU should have a gun for protection, but he needs one because his life is more important than yours. Such Hollywood liberals luck out and get into "acting" and are handed a pile of money for "acting" which almost anyone could do just as well and then all of the sudden they think they are superior to YOU, an enlightened person who knows what is best for YOU, because you are stupid and do not know what is best for yourself or this country. Penn and those like him (Streisand, Moore, Gore, Clinton's, Schumer, Fienstein, Boxer, Barry, O'Donnel, Corzine, Jackson, Mathus, Kerry, Edwards, Kennedy's, Sharpton, Lautenberg, Pelosi, Quazi Emfui?, Combs, Dean, etc..) are the real enemy to the United States, they are the enemy within, the far leftists, the liberal Democrats, the socialists, who would allow America to be destroyed if it would promote their leftist agenda.

 

[pipoman]

Hey Helmet I see your sig line. Are there any "ProGun Progressives" of national prominence or in positions of leadership?

 

[Helmetcase]

Howard Dean is heading up the DNC, he comes to mind. Perhaps one of the brightest rising stars out there now is Paul Hackett of Ohio, who's been outspoken about the mistakes that the Dems have made on gun control. That we don't have enough in positions of leadership is simply a sign that our work is far from finished. We don't have enough, and we won't convince them all, but by making reasoned arguments we'll get plenty.

 

[BIGJACK]

original by pipoman:Is this the same "mine safety" program which closed down many of the mines which have reopened in recent years?

I am not sure but the two where the 14 men recently died would have been included.

While the market was at 11000 + during the Clinton years the current 11000 is a more stable 11k IMHO.

Yea, right! have you looked at the market performance in the last few days--probally BC's fault, hu?

 

[pipoman]

I am not sure but the two where the 14 men recently died would have been included.

Mining has ALWAYS been inherently dangerous work. Miners have ALWAYS been aware of this inherent danger. I am sure there have been mine reopening parties in communities when some of the mines reopened.

We must reduce our dependence on foreign oil, we must not use any natural resources within our borders, build nuclear power plants, dam rivers, put up solar collectors, or construct wind farms. (And there had better not be any brown outs or black outs)

Yea, right! have you looked at the market performance in the last few days--probably BC's fault, hu?

Only a non market investor gages the markets performance over days and weeks. (If you are invested you had better pull out)

It never ceases to amaze me the extent of the Presidents responsibility. GWB is responsible for global warming/cooling/temperature change , tsunamis, hurricanes, terrorist attacks, rogue nations, the French hating the US and higher cooking temperatures required at higher elevations.

 

[BIGJACK]

original by pipoman: GWB is responsible for global warming/cooling/temperature change , tsunamis, hurricanes, terrorist attacks, rogue nations, the French hating the US and higher cooking temperatures required at higher elevations.

Sorry, based on most of the post on this forum these things are the resposibility of Slick Willie who has been out of office some 6 years.

Suggested observation for you sir, to aid in evaluating the "stability" of the market for the past 14 years. "dow jones history"

 

[pipoman]

Suggested observation for you sir, to aid in evaluating the "stability" of the market for the past 14 years. "dow jones history"

Please explain.

 

[BIGJACK]

a mention of the gwb 11000 dow being a more stable 11000 than was bc's 11000 and a comment on gaging the market performance leads one to want to see the graph of the market performance during that period of time.

 

[pipoman]

I believe if all factors are considered the US markets are strong. Failure to acknowledge the effects 9-11, the war on terror, the prosecution of executives because of dishonest reporting practices, and the burst of tech stocks does not make these factors go away. I do believe these things make the current 11,000 stronger than the market has been since the ridiculous inflation of tech values and failed changes in profit/loss reporting. The previous 11k, without regard for who was president, was absolutely made possible by these factors.