Will food prices be that proverbial straw?
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Wildalaska
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No not that 
WilditwasatrilogyithinkAlaska
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LightningJoe
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Woo, WildAlaska, I think you're dreaming. I mean, I can go with the Chinese girls (they're tough nuts to crack but it can be done*), but how in the world the human race could end up "racially Asian" is beyond me. Sure, there are a lot of East Asians right now and presumably always will be, but they're hardly the high growth group now or in the foreseeable future. In fact, China specifically has a one-child policy that's winding up the clock on a demographic time bomb that could make Japan's population implosion look mild.
In the long run, whoever has the most babies wins. And it's not China or any other East Asian nationality.
Also, China taking over the world is unimaginable to me. They just don't seem like a warmaking people. Have they won a war in the past 3000 years? They'll walk into Taiwan when the time comes, but they'll have an overwhelming numerical superiority when they do and Taiwan is inhabited by Chinese people, too, which is why I don't think they'll fight.
*if you wait till they're 30.
In the long run, whoever has the most babies wins. And it's not China or any other East Asian nationality.
Also, China taking over the world is unimaginable to me. They just don't seem like a warmaking people. Have they won a war in the past 3000 years? They'll walk into Taiwan when the time comes, but they'll have an overwhelming numerical superiority when they do and Taiwan is inhabited by Chinese people, too, which is why I don't think they'll fight.
*if you wait till they're 30.
Wildalaska
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Dont need a war to take over
Better check your population stats and projections. Google world racial populations for example.
WildchopsueyAlaska
LightningJoe
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North America is becoming "racially Central American aborigine." East Asian people (like the Chinese) aren't flying to Africa, the Middle East, Europe, and the Americas to outbreed the autochthons. They're pretty much sitting in East Asia, working in factories, and having one kid per couple (China, Japan, South Korea).
South Asians (like Pakistanis and Indians) are part of the demographic invasion of Europe, true. The aboriginal inhabitants of Western Europe will presumably be replaced to a large extent by North Africans, Middle Easterners, and South Asians. Central and Eastern Europe might go the same way, although I doubt it at this point.
The rest of the world, forget about it. I can see North America inhabited largely by (Central) American aborigines in few hundred years, though I doubt they'll cross any oceans. The East Asians will undoubtedly continue to migrate everywhere in small numbers as they have been for a long, long time, but altering the racial landscape of the rest of the world doesn't sound like something East Asians are likely to do.
South Asians (like Pakistanis and Indians) are part of the demographic invasion of Europe, true. The aboriginal inhabitants of Western Europe will presumably be replaced to a large extent by North Africans, Middle Easterners, and South Asians. Central and Eastern Europe might go the same way, although I doubt it at this point.
The rest of the world, forget about it. I can see North America inhabited largely by (Central) American aborigines in few hundred years, though I doubt they'll cross any oceans. The East Asians will undoubtedly continue to migrate everywhere in small numbers as they have been for a long, long time, but altering the racial landscape of the rest of the world doesn't sound like something East Asians are likely to do.
Kentuckians will be the dominate race. We are secretly breeding in the caves of eastern Kentucky.
I just don't see ethanol winning out. I traveled a lot in Europe and diesel is the dominate fuel. Diesel is about 85% combustion efficient compared to about 60% for gasoline, lower yet I think for ethanol mix. Newer low sulfur diesel should help emissions. What about bio-diesel? It is a blend made from things like soy beans. Well, yes I guess the price of soy beans would go up rather than corn.
Sorry if bio-diesel was mentioned before...lots of pages to go through.
I just don't see ethanol winning out. I traveled a lot in Europe and diesel is the dominate fuel. Diesel is about 85% combustion efficient compared to about 60% for gasoline, lower yet I think for ethanol mix. Newer low sulfur diesel should help emissions. What about bio-diesel? It is a blend made from things like soy beans. Well, yes I guess the price of soy beans would go up rather than corn.
Sorry if bio-diesel was mentioned before...lots of pages to go through.
FirstFreedom
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Well, *something* needs to pry the masses off of their teevees and beer, and make them wake up to the fact that the government is giving us the shaft - the fedgov is out of control and spending like drunken sailors. If a food crisis is what makes us aware of inappropriate governmental influence on our standards of living, then I view this as potentially a good thing. When people can't pay their necessities such as food, then they'll start to look a lot more closely at uncle sam stealing from them, as a deduction from every paycheck - and mylawd, it's at 15 or 28 percent! (presumably, those in 40% bracket won't be affected by higher food prices); and that's not counting FICA or Medicare tax!
The ethanol thing does sound like a red herring boondoggle, though - I agree with that. But politicians are notorious for not touching the other "third rail" (besides social security), and that is anything that is perceived to hurt the poor farmers. So in any state that grows corn, the politicians are all chasing this idea in a way that is artificially overblown.
The ethanol thing does sound like a red herring boondoggle, though - I agree with that. But politicians are notorious for not touching the other "third rail" (besides social security), and that is anything that is perceived to hurt the poor farmers. So in any state that grows corn, the politicians are all chasing this idea in a way that is artificially overblown.