Will Charter Arms Ever Actually Manufacture

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PT-92

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this new model/technology? Does anyone know...? I have lots of 9mm and .45acp ammo on hand and would like to purchase an "affordable" corresponding revolver in same caliber (S&W 625 is $800+). Otherwise I would have to start purchasing new calibers of ammo like .38sp etc. and
my funds won't allow for such.

http://www.charterfirearms.com/products/CARR.html

-Cheers
 
They just released the .40 S&W Pit Bull recently. Check out the review at Gunblast.
I'm waiting for the 45 acp to be released myself.
 
Frasier,

Sorry about that but I should have been more specific as I am solely looking for 9 & 45. What perplexes me is that they were all supposed to be available several years ago? Have you heard any updates regarding the release of just the .40 so far with no signs I can see of at least at the latest Shot Show or NRA Convention of anything further soon scheduled for release:confused:? I have to think there is a substantial market for this if in fact it ever materializes...

-Cheers
 
I've been following the internet rumors for the last few years, these were supposed to be released a year or two back. I have no specific date when the 9mm and 45 acp will be released, but I'm looking forward to handling one myself.
If i hear anything new, I'll post it.
 
I am looking now but my buddy just tweeted that Taurus "used" to make a 9mm revolver absent the need for moon-clips...?

-Cheers
 
I seem to recall that a 9mm version of the Charter rimless clipless revolver was demoed at one of the big shows in the not too distant past.
 
lee n. field

I seem to recall that a 9mm version of the Charter rimless clipless revolver was demoed at one of the big shows in the not too distant past.
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I will check the Shot Show records to be sure (but if so, I gotta think it was a 'prototype'). We'll see--I'm no gunsmith, but can there be much difference in the tech behind the .40 which is on the market and the 9&45--seems to me it would be applicable across the board? I also don't think funding would be an issue for Charter Arms (though I know they did reorganize several years back) as the vendors are raking in the profits from what I read hand-over-fist (unprecedented margins).

-Cheers
 
Nick Ecker said the 9mm will be out later this year.

I personally like Nick Ecker, he's not a slick salesman or a shmarmy glad-hander, he's just a regular guy and I think he's a good guy.

They're not calling it the CARR anymore I think they've changed the name to Pitbull - in 9mm.

I've also heard that they are not using the same frame as the .40 S&W Pitbull - it's going to be a different frame. I heard it would be their .38 Undercover, chambered in 9mm - with the rimless ejection system. But, that's all just Internet rumor... who knows.

If you want a 9mm revolver, Czechpoint is importing the Alfa Proj 9mm revolver, rebranded the CzechPoint 9231:

http://www.czechpoint-usa.com/products/revolvers/9-mm-luger/czechpoint-9231-9mm-para/

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Thanks much guys for the invaluable information--I have already learned a lot:).

I am hesitant regarding the Taurus as I do not want to experience ejection issues and I have never heard of the Czech model but will have a look (are the reviews positive?).

-Cheers
 
C0untZer0,

That's a sweet looking revolver strictly aesthetically speaking but if the moon-clips are reliable the price is right and if I can find some decent reviews, why not. If I did make the plunge here I would still be interested in the Charter model if it ever comes to fruition (which it sounds like it will and soon at that) as the idea of rendering the moon-clips moot is a major plus.

-Cheers
 
The Taurus still makes 9mm revolvers that technically don't require moonclips. Taurus makes the 905 with tapered chambers in the cylinder so the cartridge technically doesn't need the clips - which Taurus calls "stellar clips", for proper headspacing. The Taurus stellar clips are less than stellar. Actually most people think they suck so badly that after they've bent or broken, people just stop using them. The downside to it is that the spent cases are more difficult to eject than a normal revolver cartidge like 38 spl or something. But since most people don't use the 905 for an SD gun, they don't seem to care much about that apsect of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6h-s3aVpEI

I'll admit, I've been tempted to buy the Taurus 905, but I'm glad I haven't. The Czechpoint is here, and the Charter Arms is right around the corner IMO. Everytime I starting thinking seriously about the Taurus I'd read a story on this or some other forum about a lemon that someone purchased. When I read someone post about buying a brand-new Taurus and it breaking the first week they have it, or it just not functioning - I'd think "Well what did you expect? It's a Taurus, you read like 10 bad reviews on Taurus guns on any given forum on any given week but you still went out and bought one?" And then I'd tell myself "Why are you thinking about buying a 905? Are you nuts? You're going to be one of those guys posting on this forum about how your Taurus isn't working and their CS department is jerking you around..."

There were about 5 times since 2010 that I've seriously considered getting the 905...
 
When I purchase a carry weapon it will be a semi-auto and it will either be the Rohraugh R9, Kahr PM9 or the Boberg - depending on some factors.

But I read a post from a guy who claimed that the 9mm Pitbull CARR would utilize their .38 Undercover Lite frame. Now I'm not sure that frame can handle standard 9mm loads, I am guessing +P would be pretty rough on it. But I was thinking, that Undercover Lite is pretty compact gun and it only weighs 12 onces. If the 9mm Pitbulll did utilize that frame - it would be pretty tempting. I also wouldn't have to worry about finding ammo that it likes, as a revolver it would fire everything from 105 EFMJs to 147gr bullets - although, like I said I don't know if it would handle +P, but then again, the R9 doesn't handle +P either...

Taurus doesn't recomend firing +P in the 905 either.

So I am eagerly awaiting the debut of the Charter Arms 9mm revolver too.


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CountZero,

I have had great performance from all of my Taurus guns so I can't agree with you here (but we all have different experiences, so be it). However, I totally agree with you on the Charter technology in their new .40 Pitbull/CARR line and would happily purchase both the corresponding 9&45 sister models. Like you, I prefer semis but would not hesitate to CCW a "reliable" new PitBull revolver, but honestly I just want one to both use at the range and add to my modest collection which currently lacks revolvers (due to the cheap costs of .22lr ammo I have also seriously begun to consider a nice .22lr revolver to compliment say my GSG 1911-22).

-Cheers
 
MY Taurus 905 has been a great gun. I have had no problems with their moon clips. For a while it was hard to find the moonclips however they are out there now.
Here is a pic of mine from my vast collectoin I bought in 2008 for a great price.
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Why would you need to "find" stellar clips unless the ones that came with the revolver stopped working?
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He can answer for himself but the first thing that came to my mind was to have extras. I have close to 200 full-moon clips for the 45 ACP S&W revolvers I own.
It's like having more speed-loaders or extra magazines. No such thing as enough!

Dave
 
Master Blaster 2

MY Taurus 905 has been a great gun. I have had no problems with their moon clips. For a while it was hard to find the moonclips however they are out there now.
Here is a pic of mine from my vast collectoin I bought in 2008 for a great price.
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Just curious if one were to CCW the 905, are the 'stellar-clips' durable/stable enough to keep a couple of spares in your jacket pocket or perhaps they make a customized belt-case or the like? I thought I read somewhere that the ammo tended to loosen up if not loaded immediately into the gun thereby making it difficult to carry as spares?

Nice looking revolver!

-Cheers
 
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