This “problem” was solved in 1913 with the Remington model 14’s spiral tubular magazine. While the OP’s Quixotic quest for a semiauto 30-30 will go on, he and others like him may find they prefer a trombone to a pump handle. The pump action actually assists the shooter in bringing the muzzle down and the sights back on target after firing. The model 141 (the 14’s successor) is a light, fast handling weapon described as “a rifleman’s rifle” by the American Rifleman magazine. It was available in the .25, .30 .32, and .35 Remington cartridges.Not to mention the flat nose bullets for tubular magazines.
So did the British. Light and handy though? At least the bipod would keep a hypothetical 30-30 Bren gun out of the snow ️ while you were gutting your deer.Sure this dead but I can’t resist,the Russians made very capable mg’s and semis with a rimmed round,and they could be 30/30 powered and maybe work very nicely,A 30/30 drugenov would be an awesome project and what a great deer rifle!
Why? It’s new to me.It's a 17 year old tread, let it die!
Why? It’s new to me.
This is not entirely correct.the 30-30 and the 7.62X39 will never be the same because the russian round is loaded with 120-125 grain bullets and the 30-30 with 150s as a rule which means that though they may look the same the russian cannot compare.
if youve got some money kicking around buy a new short-trac BAR in .243 or if they make it 7mm-08 both are good rounds that pack a punch
The key here is the threshold for tolerance of how old the thread might be.
the 30-30 and the 7.62X39 will never be the same because the russian round is loaded with 120-125 grain bullets and the 30-30 with 150s as a rule which means that though they may look the same the russian cannot compare.
This is not entirely correct.
Tulammo offers a 154 grain soft point load in 7.62x39mm (at roughly 50 cents a round) that is very effective on deer size game out to 150-200 yards, and is very popular
See, you couldn’t resist either. Tag, you’re it.The "why" is because when a thread had been inactive for years (or DECADES) any questions asked have already been answered, or never will be. Many of the people making comments are no longer here. Information, other than actual historical info will be out of date, and likely no longer useful.
We keep the old threads on file for reference, because many do contain valid historical information that remains valid.
When you run into something that interests you in an old thread, the proper thing to do is not bring the zombie back to life, but to start a NEW thread on the subject, where you can reference (link to or quote from) the old thread, and responses will be current and valid.
But, while I'm here, the answer to "why no .30-30 semi-auto" is simply no market demand. The rimmed case makes it slightly more complicated in a semi auto, but that is not huge deal as full auto arms firing rimmed cases have been around since before WWI and semis since WWII as military weapons. .303 British and 7.62x54R being the most common examples.
Why no russian semi action in .30-30? The did 7.62x54R, right? Yes, but if you can do it in 7.62x54R why do it for a less powerful round like the .30-30?
Existing semi autos are readily available in cartridges that surpass the .30-30 in all aspects, so people buy and use them. There is no demand for a semi auto .30-30 from the shooting public and generally speaking manufacturers don't produce products they don't think will sell well.
Feel free to start a new thread on the subject. Someone who wasn't here 16+ years ago might have something new to share...
Don't know what a "simi-auto" is, but if you mean a semi-auto turdy-turdy, dat's wut the 7.62x39 is.Why not .30-30 simi-auto?
…Chamber it in a carbine-size package, and you'll be good to go for clean kills on deer-size game out to 150-yds…..
… Saw a deer that was shot with an SKS several years ago. I recall the young man saying the deer was over a 100 yards away. There were around 6 to 8 bullets in the deer. Some of them barely penetrated the hide. His cousin had to drop it with an old Mauser, 8 mm I think it was. Maybe it was the distance, maybe it was the ammo, but I don't think the SKS is a good meat gun. Just my opinion after helping gut and skin that deer.…