Who made your primary CCW snubby?
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If you think that ONE extra bullet is so critical, you would achieve ultimate piece of mind with 15. Or if you want to stay with a revolver, you can go with a S&W that holds 7-8 rounds. Personally, I don't consider 1 extra round as some kind of tremendous advantage. If you can't get the job done with 5, then you need to throw the gun at the BG and run.
I'm not traveling in a circle. The op simply asked "who made your primary CCW snubby?", to which I replied with the answer Colt Cobra and cited the advantage of having an extra round (six) in a revolver weighing the same and dimensionally virtually the same as the five-shot Smith J-frame (of which I currently own three variants). For whatever reason, you apparently took umbrage with the idea that 20% more ammunition in a similar size and weight revolver might be a good thing to have when defending yourself in a gunfight, to the point of arguing:
I don't know where you get the idea that five shots is all that you'll ever need in a self-defense situation and that if you run out of ammunition your best strategy is to run but I can tell you that, as a retired leo with thirty years of experience who has interviewed people unfortunate enough to have had to survive a fight where bullets were being exchanged, NOBODY ever complained about having too many rounds on board. Nobody.
To reiterate, I simply don't see the downside of having an extra cartridge in a virtually identical snub-nosed revolver in terms of weight and size (the Colt Cobra/Agent as opposed to the Smith Airweight). Furthermore, I have no idea as to how anybody can be positive enough or sufficiently prophetic about a self-defense scenario taking place in the future to predict that all you'll ever need to survive a shoot-out are those magical five shots.
Finally, it's a mite disingenuous to argue that if a person finds "that one extra bullet to be so critical you would find ultimate peace of mind with 15" when the op's question limits the options to which snubby revolver to recommend.
I don't know where you get the idea that five shots is all that you'll ever need in a self-defense situation and that if you run out of ammunition your best strategy is to run but I can tell you that, as a retired leo with thirty years of experience who has interviewed people unfortunate enough to have had to survive a fight where bullets were being exchanged, NOBODY ever complained about having too many rounds on board. Nobody.
To reiterate, I simply don't see the downside of having an extra cartridge in a virtually identical snub-nosed revolver in terms of weight and size (the Colt Cobra/Agent as opposed to the Smith Airweight). Furthermore, I have no idea as to how anybody can be positive enough or sufficiently prophetic about a self-defense scenario taking place in the future to predict that all you'll ever need to survive a shoot-out are those magical five shots.
Finally, it's a mite disingenuous to argue that if a person finds "that one extra bullet to be so critical you would find ultimate peace of mind with 15" when the op's question limits the options to which snubby revolver to recommend.
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Sorry, biut I don't see the tremendous advantage of ONE more bullet. Unless, perhaps, you are saving it for yourself. 
And I won't insult readers intelligence by claiming umpteen years of law enforcement experience when there is NO WAY of proving it. BTW...I sat next to Al Gore when he invented the internet.
And I won't insult readers intelligence by claiming umpteen years of law enforcement experience when there is NO WAY of proving it. BTW...I sat next to Al Gore when he invented the internet.
That sounds like one of your exit strategies.
I don't need to prove anything to you. I'm not claiming any special expertise as a consequence of my career in le as pertaining to the discussion at hand. We (leo) can be just as dumb (misinformed) or as smart as any other forum member. The only reason I cited my le experience was in an attempt to legitimize the interaction I've had over the years in investigating conflicts where bullets were flying and the participants were able to recount their experiences and survivor mentalities as a part of the interview process. I doubt that any readers' intelligences were insulted by me recounting attitudes from survivors of shoot-outs they were involved in.
But, in the context of the op's query, I would like you to answer these questions: What are the drawbacks to having one more cartridge at your disposal in a six-shot revolver (the Colt Cobra) that weighs the same and has only a 1/10th" wider cylinder than its five-shot counterpart (the Smith&Wesson Airweight) in a self-defense scenario? And what are the advantages to having five shots as opposed to six in virtually identically sized revolvers in a self-defense scenario?
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its just an argument waiting to happen dlludwig.I think that a 2" barreled Smith Military and Police Airweight Model 12 (if you can find one 
) is one of the best options out there in terms of a revolver being carried comfortably concealed to be used as self-protection-even the 4" variant (though not exactly a "snubby") would be a good choice in my estimation.
) is one of the best options out there in terms of a revolver being carried comfortably concealed to be used as self-protection-even the 4" variant (though not exactly a "snubby") would be a good choice in my estimation.Master Blaster 2
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1. My COP Derringer 357
2.Taruus M450Ti 45Colt
4. Old worn Colt Cobra Lightweight 38
2.Taruus M450Ti 45Colt
4. Old worn Colt Cobra Lightweight 38
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As somebody here paraphrased, this is going round and round the Mulberry Bush. Given that, add the bickering, and the fact that this was a zombie thread to beging with, gets this one closed.
Say goodnight, Gracie.
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Say goodnight, Gracie.
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