which pump shotgun will last the longest?
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treefarmernc
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I own (2) 870 Wingmasters,1 Mossberg 500 and one Maverick 88. Both the Mossberg and the Maverick have been worked own and both Remingtons have been through several thousand rounds and have never had a malfunction. My vote goes for the 870, at least the earlier models any way (up until mid to late 90’s).
We have a Winchester model 1912 built in 1915 and it has been used and passed down thru the generations, I am not certain but it probably has about 100,000 or so rounds thru it. So far it has not appeared to have been worked on and the full choke barrel is still close to spec. 
We still Trap Shoot with it when the folks come to visit.
We still Trap Shoot with it when the folks come to visit.Pathfinder45
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My only Shotgun.....
..... is a 1912 Winchester 12 gauge built in 1914. The blueing is gone but it still works great. 96 years old and still bustin' clays like it was new.
..... is a 1912 Winchester 12 gauge built in 1914. The blueing is gone but it still works great. 96 years old and still bustin' clays like it was new.
alloutracing
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Remington 870
I have both Winchester pump & Remington 870. I have 4 Remington 870's 2 in 12 ga & 2 in 12 ga. One each has a cantilever barrels for deer hunting. I would have to say my 870 see more action then any other shotgun that i own.
I have both Winchester pump & Remington 870. I have 4 Remington 870's 2 in 12 ga & 2 in 12 ga. One each has a cantilever barrels for deer hunting. I would have to say my 870 see more action then any other shotgun that i own.
Some of you guys said you like the wingmaster's better and some don't like the Maverick's.
So, why?
What is different from the Express to the Wingmaster?
What is different from the 500 to the Maverick?
To be clear, I mean specifically mechanically. Not, "My great great granddaddy had a wingmaster."
Ok, reading some other threads I found this http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=1&t=177796
which answers my questions on the Remington quite well.
I am still curious about the Mossberg's though.
So, why?
What is different from the Express to the Wingmaster?
What is different from the 500 to the Maverick?
To be clear, I mean specifically mechanically. Not, "My great great granddaddy had a wingmaster."
Ok, reading some other threads I found this http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=1&t=177796
which answers my questions on the Remington quite well.
I am still curious about the Mossberg's though.
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not the question
Questions involving superlatives .....longest, best, most....are categorically impossible to answer accurately without some qualification.
"last the longest" - under what type of use, for instance? If I buy any one of those and leave it in the box, it will pretty much last forever. Even if you wrote "normal use", you'd still be too general.
What exactly do you mean by "breaking"? Do you mean having a small part break and need repair? Do you mean that it won't fire? Do you mean that the gun can't be fixed and needs to be replaced?
Pete
With all due respect....it is a poor question. It is unanswerable in any real sense....as many of the posts have indictated.
Questions involving superlatives .....longest, best, most....are categorically impossible to answer accurately without some qualification.
"last the longest" - under what type of use, for instance? If I buy any one of those and leave it in the box, it will pretty much last forever. Even if you wrote "normal use", you'd still be too general.
What exactly do you mean by "breaking"? Do you mean having a small part break and need repair? Do you mean that it won't fire? Do you mean that the gun can't be fixed and needs to be replaced?
Pete
johnwilliamson062
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In my opinion, which is based on pretty limited experience, pump shotguns is the area of firearms with the least difference between different brands and almost no material outside of ergonomics.
Super-Dave
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My question was in reference to an actual part breaking.
Super-Dave
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thats it.
carpshooter
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I only got one thing to write !
870 is the only one here ,except maybe the Browning !
870 is the only one here ,except maybe the Browning !
I love my old Mossberg 500 and hogdogs is right about the action bars, but of the older designs I would pass another vote for the Mad. 37. My dad had one and shot the urin out of it and it NEVER needed a thing done to it.
That said I do not see the average, heck the above average shooter, EVER wearing out a pump.
I will though stick with my old Mossberg...........
That said I do not see the average, heck the above average shooter, EVER wearing out a pump.
I will though stick with my old Mossberg...........
bamaranger
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870
I have a brother in law that shoots trap w/ a custom 870. (special bbl/rib and butt stock). The receiver is stock 870 ( and I think trigger group too)
He is in- to- it.
He told me one time the # of estimated rounds he's put through the gun.
I don't recall the #, exactly, but it was in the tens of thousands, like 30-50 THOUSAND. Maybe it was more. There's been some minor repairs, a shell stop shot loose, a ring for one of the trigger group pins got broke (he thought he forced the pin in and pinched it) , but essentially it just chugged along. Neither of the above probs forced him out of a shoot.
I was stunned.
The 870 is a common LE gun. I would think there would be some interesting numbers out of the various academy's as well.
I have a brother in law that shoots trap w/ a custom 870. (special bbl/rib and butt stock). The receiver is stock 870 ( and I think trigger group too)
He is in- to- it.
He told me one time the # of estimated rounds he's put through the gun.
I don't recall the #, exactly, but it was in the tens of thousands, like 30-50 THOUSAND. Maybe it was more. There's been some minor repairs, a shell stop shot loose, a ring for one of the trigger group pins got broke (he thought he forced the pin in and pinched it) , but essentially it just chugged along. Neither of the above probs forced him out of a shoot.
I was stunned.
The 870 is a common LE gun. I would think there would be some interesting numbers out of the various academy's as well.
BPS is probably the strongest and best designed of the guns mentioned. Let me explail my reasons.
Browning is all steel though it does have some stamped parts unlike the Ithaca 37 on which it is loosely based. The quality of the gun, grade of steel and fit and finish overall are excellent.
My second choice would be a mossberg because the design is excellent but the ejector is a bit delicate and the plastic safety is notoriously prone to breakage on newer models unless you get a military version.
Remington 870 would be next. It is a proven time tested design like the mossberg but the trigger group and disassembly is not as easy as the mossberg. The carrier mechanism can trap a shell under the bolt if you don't feed it all the way into the mag tube.
Winchester 1300 rotating bolt seems overly complicated and therefore prone to breakage.
Lastly the Benelli is designed from the ground up as a cheap entry level mostly plastic pump. It's a relatively untested design and I would not trust it to be completely impervious to U.V. damage and solvents long term. It would be my last choice of shotgun. Sorry if I offended the Nova guys but leave it in gas a few days and get back to me on chemical resistance. rc
Browning is all steel though it does have some stamped parts unlike the Ithaca 37 on which it is loosely based. The quality of the gun, grade of steel and fit and finish overall are excellent.
My second choice would be a mossberg because the design is excellent but the ejector is a bit delicate and the plastic safety is notoriously prone to breakage on newer models unless you get a military version.
Remington 870 would be next. It is a proven time tested design like the mossberg but the trigger group and disassembly is not as easy as the mossberg. The carrier mechanism can trap a shell under the bolt if you don't feed it all the way into the mag tube.
Winchester 1300 rotating bolt seems overly complicated and therefore prone to breakage.
Lastly the Benelli is designed from the ground up as a cheap entry level mostly plastic pump. It's a relatively untested design and I would not trust it to be completely impervious to U.V. damage and solvents long term. It would be my last choice of shotgun. Sorry if I offended the Nova guys but leave it in gas a few days and get back to me on chemical resistance. rc