which one of my guns would you ccw?
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aarondhgraham
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I choose the .38 Special,,,
It's not because I believe the .380 is ineffective, because it's not,,,
It's just the .38 special is more effective than the .380,,,
And the physical package is about the same.
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It's not because I believe the .380 is ineffective, because it's not,,,
It's just the .38 special is more effective than the .380,,,
And the physical package is about the same.
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Wheel guns are real guns, S&W Military and Police compact...
Of the 2 choices, I'd say wheel guns are real guns,
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Really, either firearm could protect you with proper care & ammunition selection. I'd lean towards the nickeled .38spl J frame over the PPK/S because it conceals well and will hold up better to grit, lint, dirt etc than the .380acp.
Either sidearm can get a CT lasergrip; www.Crimsontrace.com . The Hogue line of grips are a great add-on too; www.getgrips.com .
As for carry/protection loads, many shooters have had issues with JHPs & defense rounds in the PPK models,
. Pistolsmiths or custom work can improve the Walther PPK/PPK-S series.
If it were me, I'd sell both firearms and put the $$$ towards a new S&W MPcompact in .357sig or 9x19mm. You can get 2 free S&W magazines or a $50.00 rebate too, www.SmithandWesson.com .
Other good carry models would include a Ruger LCR .357magnum or a CPO(pre-owned) SIG Sauer P239 DAK/SAS II in .357sig or 9mm.
The cheaper Ruger SRc 9mm could work for concealed carry but it's had mixed reviews and to my limited knowledge no US police agency uses the Ruger SR9 line. The SIG and M&P pistols are very popular with LE and citizens.
Of the 2 choices, I'd say wheel guns are real guns,
.Really, either firearm could protect you with proper care & ammunition selection. I'd lean towards the nickeled .38spl J frame over the PPK/S because it conceals well and will hold up better to grit, lint, dirt etc than the .380acp.
Either sidearm can get a CT lasergrip; www.Crimsontrace.com . The Hogue line of grips are a great add-on too; www.getgrips.com .
As for carry/protection loads, many shooters have had issues with JHPs & defense rounds in the PPK models,
. Pistolsmiths or custom work can improve the Walther PPK/PPK-S series. If it were me, I'd sell both firearms and put the $$$ towards a new S&W MPcompact in .357sig or 9x19mm. You can get 2 free S&W magazines or a $50.00 rebate too, www.SmithandWesson.com .
Other good carry models would include a Ruger LCR .357magnum or a CPO(pre-owned) SIG Sauer P239 DAK/SAS II in .357sig or 9mm.
The cheaper Ruger SRc 9mm could work for concealed carry but it's had mixed reviews and to my limited knowledge no US police agency uses the Ruger SR9 line. The SIG and M&P pistols are very popular with LE and citizens.
trigger happy
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those new polymer frame pistols don't do anything for me, I have a Glock 17 and 21, been there, got the shirt and moved on because that base was covered
LeadFistExpress
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How about both, depending on time of year, clothing etc.? I sometimes will carry one of my snub-nose revolvers and other times I will carry my Walther or another semi-auto. I must say though, when I carry my Walther IWB the decocking lever does dig into my side, especially when driving.
jglsprings
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Guess that answered that.
I'd like for an administrator to contact me and let me know
why my post on this thread was removed.... let me know what I did wrong, again.
Edit: for those that missed it... I made a joke comment that if the OP was looking to pick up beautiful women in casinos who like martinis (shaken and not stirred) then the Walther was the obvious choice.... the potential problem may have been that I then posted a picture from a Bond movie.
why my post on this thread was removed.... let me know what I did wrong, again.
Edit: for those that missed it... I made a joke comment that if the OP was looking to pick up beautiful women in casinos who like martinis (shaken and not stirred) then the Walther was the obvious choice.... the potential problem may have been that I then posted a picture from a Bond movie.
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NightSleeper
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Actually, I think very highly of Walther PPK, because I own one. As long as you've broken it in at the range, and experienced no mishaps such as jams, I'd cc with it over a revolver any day.
I used to own a M36 3" nickel. Excellent revolver. I was able to shoot it as virtually as well as my 4" service revolver, although the small fixed sights were less easy to acquire. Then again, I've been shooting revolvers for quite a while. I foolishly let another guy talk me out of that 3" gun and I've always regretted it. I presently own 5 J-frames and I find it a very useful handgun platform, but, as I said, I can shoot mine pretty well. Not everybody feels the same way about the J-frames.
I've seen a lot of Walther .380's come through qualification ranges over the years. More of them failed to compete a typical course of fire without experiencing a stoppage of some kind than those that were able to do so. Does yours reliably run with your chosen defensive ammunition, in your hands?
Which one can you handle and shoot better under stress and demanding conditions?
I've seen a lot of Walther .380's come through qualification ranges over the years. More of them failed to compete a typical course of fire without experiencing a stoppage of some kind than those that were able to do so. Does yours reliably run with your chosen defensive ammunition, in your hands?
Which one can you handle and shoot better under stress and demanding conditions?
Jimbo-Indy
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I've got a 442 J frame on my hip right now. Galco Summer Comfort IWB holster and 2 extra speed loaders in a belt case on the opposite side.
Bond, James Bond; south Florida incident; PPK...
Years ago, I saw a segment on a reality TV special where a middle-age jewelry store manager(who had a Walther PPK, open carry) talked about a violent armed robbery in his south Florida store.
The manager was shot several times while drawing his loaded PPK from the strong side hip holster. The wounded man later said; "I'd kept the safety on and did not react fast enough.". The victim then stated; "I'm not like James Bond."
This critical incident is a good example of why frame mounted pistol safeties are better than slide mounted styles(like the PPK line). It also shows why concealed or protection sidearms need to be drawn/fired quickly under some conditions.
Would a simple J frame .38spl or DA only revolver work better in this event?Maybe so.
Years ago, I saw a segment on a reality TV special where a middle-age jewelry store manager(who had a Walther PPK, open carry) talked about a violent armed robbery in his south Florida store.
The manager was shot several times while drawing his loaded PPK from the strong side hip holster. The wounded man later said; "I'd kept the safety on and did not react fast enough.". The victim then stated; "I'm not like James Bond."
This critical incident is a good example of why frame mounted pistol safeties are better than slide mounted styles(like the PPK line). It also shows why concealed or protection sidearms need to be drawn/fired quickly under some conditions.
Would a simple J frame .38spl or DA only revolver work better in this event?Maybe so.
A brief history of the Walther PPK model...
Thanks for the input.
To me, I think the Walther PPK & PPK/S models have slide mounted safeties because they are a smaller or compact version of the Walther PP or Police Pistol line. I think the PPKs were meant to be used by undercover police officers or criminal investigators who would normally wear plainclothes and needed a compact duty pistol.
The PPs had safeties because they were uniform type models and were more apt to have officer safety/weapon retention issues.
The SIG Sauer P230/P232 .380acp pistols look a lot like the PPKs but avoid the slide mounted safety device.
To my knowledge, 2 state law enforcement agencies issued Walther/S&W PPK/S pistols as offical back-ups or off-duty weapons. KY was one of them but I do not recall the other. I'm not sure if these .380acp pistols are still issued but I'd use a Glock 27, a P239 DAK or a P2000sk instead if I were a state LE officer working for the agency.
Thanks for the input.
To me, I think the Walther PPK & PPK/S models have slide mounted safeties because they are a smaller or compact version of the Walther PP or Police Pistol line. I think the PPKs were meant to be used by undercover police officers or criminal investigators who would normally wear plainclothes and needed a compact duty pistol.
The PPs had safeties because they were uniform type models and were more apt to have officer safety/weapon retention issues.
The SIG Sauer P230/P232 .380acp pistols look a lot like the PPKs but avoid the slide mounted safety device.
To my knowledge, 2 state law enforcement agencies issued Walther/S&W PPK/S pistols as offical back-ups or off-duty weapons. KY was one of them but I do not recall the other. I'm not sure if these .380acp pistols are still issued but I'd use a Glock 27, a P239 DAK or a P2000sk instead if I were a state LE officer working for the agency.