Which 10mm do I need?

Now, full disclosure; it was that original Norma 200gr Truncated Cone. Still, that's was the only off-the-shelf loading available, and it was heavily implied that it could handle that.
It can, mine did, and many other loads just as heavy or heavier. Wimpiest load mine ever digested was 170 gr hp @ 1200 fps. Sorry you got a bad one.:(
 
Dan Wesson makes a pretty decent 1911 in 10mm, and has for a while.
Quite a few of them out there.
One in my safe, as a matter of fact. :)

I almost added a Glock 20 to the mix a couple years ago, but I handload for my 10mm, and I've seen first hand what 10mm Glocks do to their brass. It's enough to make a grown man (me) cry.
 
I almost added a Glock 20 to the mix a couple years ago, but I handload for my 10mm, and I've seen first hand what 10mm Glocks do to their brass. It's enough to make a grown man (me) cry.
C'mon now, we've discussed this specifically many dozens of times. Glock built that reputation and they deserve HELL for it, but in the real world, the pistols are good enough that it only makes good sense to point out the fact that Glock got the hint, took the message, stuffed their tails between their legs and worked on the issue.

My Glock is an MML-prefix, late summer 2008 built Glock 29 and I've run over 3,350 rounds of harsh 10mm through it and it's OEM barrel, and the only problem with 10 brass is the only problem I've ever had with 10 brass and that's the fact that I lose the wonderful stuff. I don't own any goofy push-thru die and my brass hasn't been corrupted in the slightest. I run loads with Power Pistol, Longshot and 800X and I've run Buffalo Bore through it and all the brass is absolutely good to go.

Glock barrels did many years of trashing brass, but they have grown up. We need to grow up also. There are at least a couple dozen TERRIFIC reasons to refuse to buy a Glock. :p:D That some old Glocks from the early 1990's wrecked brass is not on that list.
 
only problem with 10 brass is the only problem I've ever had with 10 brass and that's the fact that I lose the wonderful stuff.
That's me as well. 50 rounds to shoot for either of my 10s and it's likely I'll be bringing back 30 of the cases. Brought back 42 out of 50 once, and almost did a dance.;)
 
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I also have a new Delta Elite and favor that pistol for shooting. It is more comfortable and more accurate.

Nice pic, Hunter0924.

The Delta is beautiful. But where'd you get the Colt knife w/ Delta insignia? It's a looker too.
 
In case anyone is interested, the Grand Power that I mentioned earlier WILL be available in 10mm in the US. Eagle Imports (Bersa) will be selling them.
 
"With the DA/SA versions, can you cock the hammer during the draw if you want to?" Mike Fontenot


Of course you can. That is why so many love this particular style. You can carry and use it just like a revolver. The long first trigger pull IS your safety, but every shot thereafter is SA with a short reset. You can cock the hammer if you want when drawing, or later if wanted.
 
My DW Razorback is probably the finest 1911 clone in my collection, I love the fully ramped barrel and wouldn't buy a 10MM without that. The RIA would be my second choice, though I don't own one yet.

I understand it has a FR barrel, and the RIA gov't .45 ACP I have is an outstanding handgun, and would be even if it cost as much as a Colt.

I'm very depressed about what passes for handgun manufacturing in the USA today, and Dan Wesson is exactly the opposite, with very high quality materials, fit and finish, so nice it seems like it should be in a museum of old school manufacturing before the onset of planned obsolescence manufacturing.
They don't build them expecting you to have to buy another one because the first one wore out.

That's really rare today.
 
In case anyone is interested, the Grand Power that I mentioned earlier WILL be available in 10mm in the US. Eagle Imports (Bersa) will be selling them.

Thanks. Any known timeline on this?
 
smokehouse4444 said:
I (Mike Fontenot) wrote:

"With the DA/SA versions, can you cock the hammer during the draw if you want to?"

smokehouse replied:

"Of course you can. That is why so many love this particular style. You can carry and use it just like a revolver. The long first trigger pull IS your safety, but every shot thereafter is SA with a short reset. You can cock the hammer if you want when drawing, or later if wanted."

I got to handle one yesterday at my local gun store. Cocking with my weak thumb was easy during the draw. Cocking with my strong thumb didn't work very well (this model had a beavertail, and the wood grips), but that's OK ... weak-thumb cocking is the currently recommended procedure for cocking revolvers.

The P220 felt good to me. Didn't like the LONG SA takeup, but I understand there is a shorter-reset option. The only thing I REALLY didn't like was that the trigger pinched my finger when I pulled it, both on DA and SA.
 
HisSoldier said:
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My DW Razorback is probably the finest 1911 clone in my collection [...]
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If DW had made the same design choices that Kimber made in their Eclipse (like front-strap checkering, racking grooves on the front of the slide, and a grip-lever-controlled firing-pin safety, and a NON-ambidexrious thumb safety), I'd probably have one by now.
 
Aww, Mike, the DW is miles better & then some over the Kimber and the firing pin lock on the Kimber is big part of the reason.

If you put each of these in your hands, you'd agree immediately.
 
Thinking about getting one of these at some point. STI does a really fine job with their guns. The DW Razorback is a lot nicer to look at, though -- and a lot less expensive.

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In case anyone is interested, the Grand Power that I mentioned earlier WILL be available in 10mm in the US. Eagle Imports (Bersa) will be selling them.

Thanks. Any known timeline on this?
Nothing definite. Someone from Grand Power has said that the ATF licensing takes 6-8 months. I don't know how far along the process is, but since the other calibers aren't here yet, I am guessing it might be a year. Just my guess though. so don't take it as gospel.
 
Thinking about getting one of these at some point. STI does a really fine job with their guns. The DW Razorback is a lot nicer to look at, though -- and a lot less expensive.
Certainly, I've never seen one of the STI Perfect 10's in the flesh, but I have handled and shot a couple of STI 2011 full-boat race guns. Also had a Trojan and a buddy of mine has a Ranger II. STI makes quality handguns and all except one of them are USA made.

But I've also handled a few Dan Wesson 1911 pistols and only had the pleasure of shooting one... but again, the Dan Wesson outclasses them - in my opinion of course. And the different plastic parts on the STI (while replaceable enough...) look cheap, feel extremely cheap and just plain confound me. Dan Wesson uses Ed Brown parts.

I don't believe there is a finer production 1911 on the market than a Dan Wesson. If you want better, it's going be from one of the elite, obvious known makers.

I don't expect everyone to agree with me... but the very next time you see a Dan Wesson, ask them to fish it out and handle that handgun and see if you can tell, feel and visually see what these guys are doing. These are very much a cut above production-level handguns.
 
For 10mm I went with the S&W 1076 & 1006 for my bottom feeders. Built like a tank and a nice single stack mag.:)
 
I've had my 1006 since 1994, I think. My buddy bought it new in 1992 on my advice and his wife decided to make him sell it to me a bit later. It took him a decade to shed that woman, but good for him.

Mine is dang near a safe queen. It's not as friendly to shoot as my Glock 29 and it throws brass across the county even with a replacement Wolff recoil spring. And the trigger is two-way horrendous and I can't shoot it as accurately as my G29.

I love Smith & Wesson 1st, 2nd & 3rd Gen pistols and I have six of them, but the 1006 barely sees the light of day. Pride of ownership is high... but I hardly shoot it anymore.
 
I don't believe there is a finer production 1911 on the market than a Dan Wesson. If you want better, it's going be from one of the elite, obvious known makers.

I don't expect everyone to agree with me... but the very next time you see a Dan Wesson, ask them to fish it out and handle that handgun and see if you can tell, feel and visually see what these guys are doing. These are very much a cut above production-level handguns.

You won't get any argument from me there. I have a little experience with the Valor, and it definitely has a place on my to-buy list.
 
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