Which 10mm do I need?

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Okay, so it's not really a need need kinda thing. It's a want need kinda thing. As in, I need more horsepower in my hot rod kind of need.

I'm a very experienced shooter and gravitated towards wheel guns a few years ago. The fact that I really like a single action trigger surely has a lot to do with that.

Should I pick up a 10, it will be for plinking and making noise more than anything else. It will compliment my custom 6-1/2" 10mm Contender.

Let me start off the gun criteria by saying that I have shot almost every consumer grade Glock out there. None of them fit me. I wanted to like them but I don't. Skip the SuperGlock banter and move on to the next brand.

I have large hands and prefer a somewhat large grip.

Full size guns are preferred.

I prefer the balance of steel over polymer. It would have to be a VERY impressive polymer to win me over. None have done it yet.

I am really fond of the 1911 platform. It's the bottom feeder I shoot best.

That is followed by the EAA Witness. I also run a Springfield P9 (remember those?) well. The CZ75B has an overly aggressive beaver tail that makes the gun point down in my hand.

I like the idea of a Delta Elite but don't know if they're really worth the money. I'm not addicted to the Colt Kool Aid so the high price seems iffy. I'd rather have a series 70 style 1911 without the extra safety.

The S&W 1006 seems to have quite the following but I never handled one so I can't comment on it.

Springfield Omegas are tempting but they're a bit pricey and I don't know much about them.


What am I overlooking?
 
If you like revolvers, why not a S&W 610?
What makes you think you are not getting value with Colt? Because the price is higher than for a gun made in a factory with a dirt floor in the Philippines?
Don't 3rd Gen S&W autos have an "extra safety"?
The Omega has been out of print for fifteen years(?), and if you have problems with it, I don't know that Springfield supports it anymore? You might have to go to Peters Stahl in Germany for parts.
 
From reading the Sig Sauer Forum, I understand Sig is coming out with a 10mm in the P220. I have two P220 in .45 ACP and love both of them.

I do not own a Glock and can not comment. I also do not own a 10mm, but if I did it would be a Sig P220. :)
 
I hate Glocks point angle and blocky shape. They feel so outdated and the fact Glock continues to milk their "take it or leave it" design kills the brand for me.
Untill I get one of the first Sig P220 in 10mm, I will continue to carry the G20 in the woods. Did I mention a really detest Glock handguns but probably owned about all of them over the years when there wasn't any better polymer choice. Thank goodness those days have changed (except in 10mm).
You don't want to hear this but,....for the 10mm the G20 is hard to beat for the present time. Its light weight for its size and holds ALOT of rounds. Skip the G29. Its barrel was to short for me to get any of my loads up to speed and its still kinda big so If your gonna go big, go G20.

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Glock 20.....:D

Like the poster above stated, wait for the Sig P220 in 10mm.

I dont know if I would consider the 10mm a plinking round though....
 
That is followed by the EAA Witness.
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I can speak to the Witness version called the "Stock" since I have one. It's a higher end Witness, double action/single action with target sights, tight fitting bull barrel and some other fancy upgrades. It's one of my favorite full-sized guns! It absolutely has the best da/sa trigger of any gun I've experienced to date. I also have a CZ 75B in 9mm and the Stock's trigger is far superior. Accuracy is phenomenal. Holds 15+1 rounds. Finish is very durable brushed chrome.

FYI, the Stock is now basically EAA's "Witness Limited Pro", and it is not the same as the Stock II. I don't know why they swapped the names. IMHO, these (higher end Witness lineup) are some of the finest guns being made.
 
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If you discount the Glock the only other real option is the discontinued S&W 1006. The Smith and Glock are the only 2 that have consistently proven to work well in 10mm.

The EAA's are a decent gun in other calibers, but their 10mm's are doubtful. Same with 1911's. Some work, many don't. Especially when you start shooting full power loads through them. Most of the factory stuff is 40 S&W in a 10mm case. Kinda defeats the purpose of owning a 10mm if you cannot take advantage of the better loads.

If you really want a 10mm, you're probably going to have to learn to like a Glock.
 
From reading the Sig Sauer Forum, I understand Sig is coming out with a 10mm in the P220. I have two P220 in .45 ACP and love both of them.

Well, I wouldn't hold my breath. They've said they're looking at it, but there is no set time table for putting one out.

CZ has also played around using a CZ97 frame (the .45acp frame) with a SP01 slide and it looks nice. Sad thing is, there are only one or two working copies and again, no firm commitment to when they're coming out (if at all).

For me, personally, I would look at a Tanfoglio Witness, but only one of the Elite line. If you want a SAO, look to the Elite Match. If you want DA/SA, any of the others would suffice. After that, I'd consider either a Dan Wesson or Fusion 1911. Beyond that, I'm just not interested (unless Springfield would come up with a XDM version, but they won't...been begging for years).
 
RickB, I'm am very aware of the 610. I already have one moon clip gun (25-2) but I'd like to slide into a bottom feeder this time.

As for the Philippines dirt floor bit, does that apply to my Kimber?

I didn't think so.

Colt handguns seem to command a premium simply because they have Colt on the side. A fine example is the Python. Yes, it's a nice gun but it's not worth twice the price of a S&W Model 19 in similar condition.
Colt guns tend to be quality pieces but are often priced above similar models from other similar quality manufacturers.

If I do this, I want a quality firearm (above a Taurus) and don't mind a well cared for piece with a few miles on it.
 
Colt handguns seem to command a premium simply because they have Colt on the side
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Not sure what that means? If people are paying the asking price for something, and Colt sells every gun they can make, then that what they are worth.
If we were talking about something like a Glock, which costs $250 to make, but is priced $550, then I'd agree with you.
 
I have one of the original Delta Elites, perhaps it has prejudiced me ever since. It was made during the dolddrum days of Colt quality; unless things have changed dramatically I cannot recommend it or the like. I had parts flying off the gun within the first 50 rounds.

People have a great panache for drinking Kool-Aid; if Colt, Chevy, or Budweiser sells everything they make, that's not necessarily proof of anything other than people will choose to ignore that which is in front of their eyes.
 
I bought a Block 20SF a couple years ago. Mostly because I didn't have a Block, or a 10MM. I looked at bother the standard G20, and t g e SF(short frame). I couldn't really tell any difference in the feel between the two. I bought the SF because it was $30 less. I really like it, and happy I made the purchase. It's lots of fun to shoot, and quite accurate. Ammo is a bit pricey, but I will probably reload for it anyway.
 
I believe in this scenario that a single stack magazine has the distinct advantage of holding fewer rounds. After all, when was the last time you finished shooting without emptying the mag?
If it's an 8 round mag you just saved 9 rounds over a 17 round capacity. :D
 
Personally, I think the DW Razorback 1911 in 10mm is the best non-Glock 10mm for the $$$. But a Colt Delta Elite would be cool, too.
 
EAA witness HUNTER. - 6" barrel, double stack mag, SINGLE action only. Super smooth with a nice trigger. Time spent polishing bits really makes the trigger stand out.

The full metal construction will suck up the recoil, even with real full power hand loads that are over 750ftlb.
 
Yes, I am aware that we are in the semi-auto sub-forum, but since you wrote of your Contender, you may want to investigate the Ruger Buckeye Blackhawk convertible in 10mm and .38-40. The one I shot was easy shooting and accurate. They are only available used now.
 
I will be getting a Witness Elite Match about end of year. Seems like the best alternative. High capacity, high grip, single action.

There is another 10mm possibly coming out in a few weeks. It' the Grand Power K-100. It will be imported by Eagle Imports, the importers of Bersa. It is a rotating barrel hammer fired design that looks pretty good. It is however a polymer frame. Here's some info on the guns. http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg/slov/k-100-e.html

Scratch that. Just got an email from Eagle and the pistols they will import in a few weeks are listed as 9mm. I asked for clarification to make sure, so I'll let you know when I hear back from them.
 
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The 1911 style 10mms feel good in the hands and shoot well. However some of the early 10mm models lacked chamber support near the case head which is a problem with heavy loads. I know this included some of the early Deltas and some Glocks. The 1006 is a stainless steel tank that is as strong as you will find. However the prices are going up if you can find one. The 610 revolvers are great but hard to find now and almost all well over $1000.
 
It seems like the newer Rock Island 10mm's would be perfect. You like 1911's, don't want to pay for the Colt, and Rock Island makes a pretty nice gun.
 
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