Where is your gun? Someone just kicked in your front door...

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Foxfire: In Phils we only talks the legal gun (those that were licensed) we don't mentioned the undocumented one, as there are many eagle eye to look for prey, you know what I mean. I think, whatever the personality of the intruder during night time I don't care I will shoot him first and let the court decide if I did right or wrong. I won't let someone like in the movie kicking the front door and immediately drag all the occupants.

There is no room for illegal search and seizures or for a Criminal, whoever and whatever the reason of someone who will make forcible entry. I have to protect my nipa hut. Dead man tells no tales.
 
FWIW, a highly-trained LEO friend of mine tells me that he keeps a revolver in his kitchen, another revolver in his study/home office next to his computer, a shotgun and revolver in his bedroom, plus a gun anywhere else he's likely to be (note that he has no young children). He points out that it's difficult to predict where a personal defense weapon will be needed, so placing multiple guns in well-thought-out locations in advance is his way of keeping protection handy.

Anyway, his reasoning made sense to me, so my wife and I each have a handgun in our respective bedside tables, plus a shotgun in the front hall closet, plus my carry gun in the study. I've thought about putting a big old S&W .44 revolver under my pillow, but it sounds lumpy and, anyway, my wife doesn't like the idea. :)

No guns in the kitchen or bathroom yet, but I'm considering it.
 
Always have the BHP & a spare mag handy. It goes with me & all else is locked up in the safe.

Thought that it was a good idea to always have a firearm between you and any entrance.

So, what do y'all do with all the shooters in closests & drawers, etc. when leaving the house? Do they get locked up or left around for theives to steal? No flames, just curious.

To each his own, but I do think it responsible to prevent theft of your shooters - not to mention the financial hit if they're ripped.
 
Ever see "Dogs of War?" as I recall there was a piece in the fridge, and another one under a magazine on the telephone stand when Shannon answers the door.

I'm not nearly that paranoid. Kick plates and dead bolts are damn fine ideas, as is locking the door behind you when you get home. if I had the room a BIG dog like Robert's would be the best.

Robert, kracivaya sabbokca. Good to see a stamp from Sakhalin. What is that breed called??

The BEST defense is being aware, knowing your nieghbors and a big dog. Security lights and proper dead bolts and security doors are a bonus. I'm frankly more worried about having one of my guns stolen than I am about having to use one. That's why I keep mine locked up when I'm not home. When I get home, the door gets locked behind me and the lock comes off the shotgun or pistol.

Seems the most prudent option to me since I can't get a ccw in Denver.

Dr.Rob
 
One may theorize about availability, but nothing clarifies the issue like actually wanting one NOW. Sometime last year, my garage door opener spontaniously turned itself on. I was suddenly keenly aware that no weapons were handy.
 
I make it point never to reveal my security measures (if in fact I have any) to anyone other than members of my household.

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So many pistols, so little money.
 
Wife and I turn security system on when we are in the house and not going out immediately. If breached, 145 Db siren goes off and monitoring center calls us; if no answer or code word is given they call 911. Doors/gates are locked religiously. House is small but open and on small lot. We don't open door to strangers, unless we are expecting plumber, electrican, etc. Handguns hidden in easy reach in rooms where we spend most of our time. Flashlights all over the place.

S&W 629 with Glaser Blues is within reach when we're in the hottub out back. Makes nongun people a little nervous at first but it's my house, right? And the Glasers make a real interesting conversation piece for nongunners.

Neighbors on all sides except one have large dogs. We have motion detector lights and so do all of our neighbors.
 
One of the only reasons why crime has decreased in this country is due to the fact that the bulk of the criminal age group demographic is at a low right now. In the early 90', we started another baby boom and as soon as this generation reaches that criminal age, watch out. We got a little taste of what is to come in the next crime wave. Car jacking and home invasions.

Lets face it, most of us have fairly secure lives. We have alarm systems, most of our valuables are secure in safes and assuming you live in a suburban white neighborhood, police do respond pretty fast. In the future, the only way the BG is going to get to your belongings is by home invasion or a car jacking. Someone busting the door down is going to be a problem. Criminals have been showing a increasing propensity to commit violence and do the unexpected. We do need to protect ourselves. Choose your method.

I have chosen a dog as a first line of defense. I am too busy doing the day to day things of life, raising a family, working and the need to just tune off. Animals have abilities that we just don't, that is instinct. They know when someone is coming to the door and if that person is well intended or not. We just cannot do that. Eliminating the element of surprise will foil most all home invaders.

Always keep a 45 acp revolver handy anyway, put the BG out of his misery after the dog is done with him.

Dr Rob, the dog in the stamp is a Hungarian Komondor. Don't know were the stamp came from, someone emailed to me. I have had dogs all my life, had them all (the good ones at least). This is the most independent thinking defensive dog I have ever had. Security is programmed into this dogs. Look them up, very special breed with a interesting history.

Robert

[This message has been edited by Robert the41MagFan (edited January 11, 2000).]
 
The stamp looks like it is from Sakhalin island (east of Vladivostock, Siberia) and across the Bering sea from alaska.. and north of japan's island chain) or at least that's what it says across the top in Russian.

I've seen one of those dogs before at the park.. maybe I'll think twice about chatting up its owner hahahaha.

See you around TFL,

Dr.Rob
 
Well let's see, we've got security cameras, motion lights, bars on windows, security doors, locking all doors, alarm systems, outside and inside dogs, not to mention various firearms being carried and conveniently placed in every room of the house. Hmmm... is it just me or are some of us getting a little paranoid here? I can just picture someone holding a HK in one hand while trying to wash the dishes with the other hand.... ;)

If the day ever comes that I find myself having to walk around MY home carrying a pistol, just to be safe, is the day I put the house for sale and move. It's a sad reality when I don't feel safe at work, or while driving, or at the grocery store, or even walking down the street. But not to feel safe at home with my family - NO WAY! That's where I draw the line.

BTW, get an inside dog. Our German Shepard is a member of the family; but she's an expendable deterrent, if or when...


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I read an article years ago that had something to do about "spreading the risk" or in other words, don't put everything in one place where it's easier to steal.
Most burglers will spend very few minutes in the house and will usually head for one area, probably the master bedroom, looking for valuables. Jewelry, guns, electronics etc...
By not keeping everything in one place (like guns) there was less chance of them not all being stolen. This was when I first spread my guns out, the access issue came up later.

Four pistols and shotgun in the master bedroom. Pistol in dining/living area, pistol in family room, pistol and carbine in the den and two pistols in the car/garage.
Not to mention various cutlery scattered about. Most of these would take a deliberate attempt to find and access by someone else, but only seconds for me.
The only other person that knows is my wife and the only time they are moved is when my college age daughter is in town and has friends over. Then they are unloaded and locked away. I feel this is prudent. ;)

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Knee deep in brass, still shootin fast!
 
As I read this thread, I was glad that I have my H&K USP holstered in my Mad Dog Y2k Gun Glove holster. I generally just carry it or the H&K Compact around from room to room.

I am a big 1911 fan, but only have guns set up for bullseye right now; actually I have two 1911's built for full power loads, but am in process of breaking them in and checking for reliability.

The H&K is somewhat shocking to a 1911 person; the receiver 'rails' are only four metal tabs which stick out and engage the slide; they are only about 1/4" long! Despite this, the H&K USP is STRONG. It is the only .45 ACP automatic which is OK to use with .45 Super rounds box stock. I suppose with time I will get use to plastic in my pistols.

Walt
 
I used to leave a loaded handgun or two hidden about the house. My wife knew this, my friends knew this, my relatives knew this, we have no children, my closest friends had no children at the time, my wife's closest friends had no children, my sister (only sibling) had no children, so I didn't see a problem. So you can perhaps imagine my surprise when some of my wife's relatives stopped by somewhat unexpectedly and a very young cousin of her's emerges with a .38 revolver I had "hidden" in the living room. I am glad I was there to immediately retrieve the gun only saying somewhat calmly "That's loaded" before unloading and securing the weapon. One of my greatest fears is being a HCI statistic. I would now recommend carrying the gun at all times (good reason to own a mouse gun?) or locking it up unloaded. At night the gun should probably be kept in one of the quick access night stand safes if kept in the bedroom for home defense.
 
Lots of good posts, but here is the reality. Minn is a good state to look at. Last year we had 36,000 home burglaries. Most would agree that about 50% have guns, so let's say 20,000 have guns. Most studies show 13% of all burglaries are of OCCUPIED homes. So about 3,000 OCCUPIED AND ARMED burglaries took place. We can find only ONE case where a homeowner shot a thug. There were few cases of homeowners confronting an intruder. There were a FEW.
So, the math is pretty simple. The odds of you having an encounter with a criminal are darned slim. Crooks aren't that stupid. I just had a student wake up in the morning and someone came into his home took his wallet from his pants next to the bed and emptied the family piggy bank in the kitchen and the family pooch snoozed nearby but is legend for barking at most folks.
Confrontation is what happens when your defenses fail. So the idea is to have a LOT of defenses such as motion lights, alarms, reinforced doors etc. I have a city crime report in front of me and it shows 66% of all burglaries via UNLOCKED doors and/or windows. Hope that gives you a clue of how it works in the real world.


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It's good to be able to set up a perimeter around the house. Unfortunatly I can't due to covenants. I have fenced off everything I can and have the dogs, which bark at everything. They'd probably bite an aggressive stranger too. Without some advance warning, Perimeter intrusion or dogs etc. It seems to me that haveing a gun just in the room with you might be useless unless it is on your person or immediatly accessable without moving from your position.
I personally dig out both my glocks whenever I get home and carry both from room to room with me, including bathroom, kitchen and everywhere else. If im dressed they are holstered. If not they are on the desk or counter where I can reach them.
The BG's seem to be getting more and more aggressive. Home invasions are on the rise from what I've seen and these crimes are sudden and vicious. If some jerk breaks down my front door while i'm in the living room watching TV I doubt I'd have time to dash accros the room to get a hidden gun.
 
Gun is on my hip when ever I am in an area that allows for CCW. At home the gun is always on my hip or within arms reach. Dont get into leaving different guns around the house because I would one day forget to put it back in the safe before leaving. Also different guns shoot differently. I like to have the one I am most familiar with and use in training regularly so I just carry it around.
 
Here in south africa the gun must either be locked in a safe or under your direct control,so guns stashed around the house would be illegal.I carry my 45 all the time anyway so around the house I normally just stick it in my waistband crossdraw.I do have mags stashed all over the place just in case though. its not paranoia or anything its just that invasion of occupied houses is very popular here,probably because its easier.There are many cases of house breakers here entering with ak-47 and r-5 rifles and they often dont leave witnesses.Walls and dogs are useful as an early warning system but if they want to get in they will.
 
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