Where are good AK's coming from now????

And back to the Pinto vs. BMW. I'm not going to pay $40,000 for a Pinto that someone has done a rotisserie resotoration on and is immaculate- it's still a Pinto... Just IMHO.
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Right... and ur CAI is a re-worked Romanian copy of a AK..

Arsenals come from Russia....gets assembled in Las Vegas... so your point sort of doesn't make sense.

Regardless... the CAI's aren't up to par to an arsenal... no matter what way you look at it.

I have the cash to buy what I want... rather than settle for a subordinate, and when the difference isn't all that much more... why bother with the cheaper.

My WASR cost me $200, now big chains are asking $600... small shops right around $500. I would rather spend the extra money on a nicer gun.
 
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For me it's the yugo's. I have 2 yugo 70B1(fixed stock) & 1 70B2 under folder stock. It's the best AK-47 for the money 100%.IMO
 
Right... and ur CAI is a re-worked Romanian copy of a AK..
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Indeed it is. And the Arsenal is a re-worked Russian sporter copy of an AK- If we want to look at it like that, Arsenals aren't any more of an AK-47 that Century builds. If it doesn't have three rivets, it isn't an AK-47. Least mine CAME in a pistol grip setup :rolleyes:

I'm not a purist, I just won't spend money on a gun trying to be something that it isn't. All in all, if you're happy with it, so be it.
 
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Indeed it is. And the Arsenal is a re-worked Russian sporter copy of an AK- If we want to look at it like that, Arsenals aren't any more of an AK-47 that Century builds. If it doesn't have three rivets, it isn't an AK-47. Least mine CAME in a pistol grip setup
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The Saiga's that Arsenal converts are made in the same factory that makes AK's for the Russian military. They are "sporterized" versions of the AK-100 series of rifles, which are basically modernized AK-74's in a variety of chamberings that were intended for sales to foreign militaries. Since guns with assault rifle features are illegal to import, the folks at the Izhmash factory build them in a sporter version that meets US import laws, and Arsenal converts them to back to Russian military spec, or about as close as you are going to legally get.

And no, your Century didn't "come" in a pistol grip setup. It's against the law to import a gun with such a setup. The gun didn't have a pistol grip when it entered the country. It had to be added to the gun in the US along with the correct number of compliance parts for it the gun to be legal. It's the same thing Arsenal does with their Saiga's, except they do a much better job of it.
 
Additionally, the Arsenal rifles come with:
"original Russian chrome lined hammer forged barrel, front sight block with bayonet lug and 24x1.5mm right-hand threads, gas block with accessory lug, US made anti-slap double stage trigger group, US made mil-spec. polymer stock set with stainless steel heat shield and trapdoor for cleaning kit, 1000 meter rear sight leaf, scope rail."
 
It boggles my mind how someone can claim that a CAI is anywhere close to the quality of Arsenal.

It obviously comes from those who have never handled or shot an Arsenal. Before I bought mine, I didn't think it was going to be THAT much different.... boy was I wrong.
 
By your logic why not go even cheaper and get an SKS? Same fire controls.. and you can actually reload one faster with stripper clips than you can playing AK Rock&Roll Mag change.
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I have had one for a long time now...I paid $59.00 for it and it proabably shoots as good as that $700-$800 Arsenal...lol

I took My AK to the indoor range and at 50 Yards it kept 5 shots in a 1 3/4" x 1 3/4" inch group with my bad eyes that make the sights blurry. How much better is the Arsenal?

An AK is an AK it was built to provide a low cost weapon for war. You can put lipstick and lingere on it and pretend its a BMW but it is still an AK.
 
I only buy quality firearm, name brand and over 1k$, on my ak I went with the cheapest, the WASR 10, the reason is you can load it up with mud with covers removed, install the covers, load it up and it will not miss a lick. I would like the nicer ones but it's just not worth it, to me. I will get what I paid if I sold it but that won't happen and it will last longer the I will.
 
Best AK

VEPR, by Robinson Arms, you can find them on GunBroker for around $800 to $1000, heavier barrel, RPK machine gun receiver, better fit and finish, rear sight adjustable for windage and elevation these are used guns but you can often find in excellent condition. I also see on GunBroker they are manufacturing new ones in Russia and sold on GunBroker, but I have not bought a new one yet.

Arsenal, the old milled receiver AK, but cost prohibitive.
 
By your logic why not go even cheaper and get an SKS? Same fire controls.. and you can actually reload one faster with stripper clips than you can playing AK Rock&Roll Mag change.
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"same fire controls"????? Have you EVER handled either weapon? Yes, they both have a trigger and fire the same cartridge, but the commonality pretty much ends there.

And the OP asked where the best AKs are coming from today. To that the answers are Arsenal, Krebs, and possibly Red Jacket.
Are the Wasrs, CAIs and others good? Yes.
Are they the best? No.
 
I only buy quality firearm, name brand and over 1k$, on my ak I went with the cheapest, the WASR 10, the reason is you can load it up with mud with covers removed, install the covers, load it up and it will not miss a lick. I would like the nicer ones but it's just not worth it, to me. I will get what I paid if I sold it but that won't happen and it will last longer the I will.
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Please make a you tube video of you personally doing this.

"same fire controls"????? Have you EVER handled either weapon? Yes, they both have a trigger and fire the same cartridge, but the commonality pretty much ends there.
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OR perhaps the fact one needs to remove the firing hand to rack the action... which is what I was referring to, same downfall the AK and the M1A shared.

Yes the $59.00 you spent on your SKS was worth it..... but the CAI you have is not much more gun let alone quality... so wouldn't you agree $500-600 is a little steep eh???

For that much I would rather get one of better quality born in Russia, with much higher resale value.... because I buy trade and sell guns A LOT.
 
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MY WASR 10/63 functions reliably and will hit a target from 25 meters out to 300 meters with my eyesight is there something else your $700.00 + AK does any different?

If you want to spend that much on an AK-47 thats your choice. I am sure they are fine rifles. Everybody does not have that much money to stick into a rifle. I am not here to down anybody.

My point is you dont have to spend that much to get a decent AK that will do what you need it to. You can go to a place like J&G and pick them up for around $429.00 everday . They were $399.00 but the price went up.

I buy and sell guns a lot too and used to be an FFL Holder. What does that have to do with the subject? I dont plan on buying and selling a lot of them so resale value to me is a moot point and would be to a lot of folks here.

However if I had bought several hundred of these rifles for around $200 back in the day and held on to them. I could sell em like hotcakes for $399.00 without putting a penny into them.
 
My point is you dont have to spend that much to get a decent AK that will do what you need it to.
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And my point is...

does any one know which AK's are the best nowadays...and where are they coming from?????
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was the original question from the OP. He did not ask for DECENT, he asked which were the BEST.

You bought a WASR... and your happy... that's great and I am happy for you... but still doesn't mean you should put down every other brand out there. Honestly I much prefer an AR over an AK anyways, so I got rid of all my AK's, you can call me a gun snob or brand loyalist or whatever... but it simply isn't the case.

I have had a WASR, like I stated a number of times. It shot, but like Uncle even said.... I don't consider it something it is not. I had a Bryco/Jennings .32 auto I got for free that went bang when I pulled the trigger... doesn't mean its just as good as a Colt?

There are differences, whether you choose to ignore them or not. I am not trying to put a WASR down, besides what people ask for them currently... but to ME and other BUYERS sometimes RESALE value IS important. I have student loans to pay... but the one major factor as to why I can afford "top shelf" firearms... is because I spend my money on quality ones... that I can trade up with.. or resale when I am bored with it.. for something new that has caught my eye.

Makes it easier spending that extra $150 for a much better made rifle... when the extra cash came as profit from letting go another gun in the safe.

Fit & Finish.. parts quality, origin, tighter tolerances, and longevity of service all matter to me personally.

I don't know where all this crap came from about any AK can be filled with mud and dirt and grit and still function fine. Sure it is a reliable design.... but the stuff I hear repeated is getting ridiculous. You hear an AR will jam at the mere sight of dust.... yet I have gotten a lot more AK's to jam over the years than I ever did AR's.:rolleyes:
 
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HKFan9, why don't you do a utube search and find it for yourself. If you don't believe my post I really don't care, I don't have to explain myself to you.:rolleyes:
 
I took My AK to the indoor range and at 50 Yards it kept 5 shots in a 1 3/4" x 1 3/4" inch group with my bad eyes that make the sights blurry. How much better is the Arsenal?
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Egh.. My Arsenal will do 1 MOA if I do my part...
 
I am a 55 year old guy who has Presbyopia and gets a very very blurry sight picture. I imagine if I put a scope on the AK mine could do MOA as well. I intend to do a Fuller job on my back sight to see if it helps

Aside from that I will still be able to get hits out to 300 meters which is what an AK was designed for.
 
HKFan9, why don't you do a utube search and find it for yourself. If you don't believe my post I really don't care, I don't have to explain myself to you.
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You proved my point well... people are quick to repeat stories they heard of other guns... rather than try and test something themselves. Yes AK's are reliable and can handle conditions as well as anything out there.... but they are a man made mechanical devise.... they do fail and break down. You posted something you have not not personally tried or tested....
 
lol... The AK has been battle tested in every part of the world from the big wars to the little wars before there was an Arsenal, Red Jacket and whoever else there is now. There are probably AK-47s that were made in the 50s and 60s still in use in Afghanistan. It held its own in Vietnam against the weapons of a modern industrial nation. The Ak-47 is responsible for millions of deaths and is still causing deaths to this day. They gave millions of these things to countries around the world.

I think the AK-47 has been battle tested and then some and not found lacking.
 
lol... The AK has been battle tested in every part of the world from the big wars to the little wars before there was an Arsenal, Red Jacket and whoever else there is now. There are probably AK-47s that were made in the 50s and 60s still in use in Afghanistan. It held its own in Vietnam against the weapons of a modern industrial nation. The Ak-47 is responsible for millions of deaths and is still causing deaths to this day. They gave millions of these things to countries around the world.

I think the AK-47 has been battle tested and then some and not found lacking.
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Right.... but we aren't talking about AK-47's now are we?

If you truly believe your CAI lives up to all you really think it is.. please put your money where your mouth is, test it for yourself, and post the video of your results.
 
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