Were your 6 year old son and the girlfriend shooting the guns with 2 fingers held perpendicular to their arm? What were they doing to cause the malfunctions and exactly what did you tell them that made them stop?
The two finger thing is what the boy in the video was doing with a Glock and what I was trying to replicate, and in a few instances did, but it didnt happen to me, anywhere near as often as it did for him.
My son and my sons girlfriend were moving their arms rearward with recoil. They werent shooting Glocks. As soon as I showed them what was happening, and they made the effort to stop doing it, the problem went away, and they didnt have any more troubles.
Totally different instances too, over 20 years of so. This all didnt happen on the same day.
Does that clear it up?
You simply can not do both either your wrists and elbows are locked and you don't allow the web of your hand to move or your wrists and elbows are not locked which would allow the gun to move the web of your hand.
Sure you can. Id again suggest instead of arguing about it, you actually go give it a try. Or not, and just keep at it.
The gun moves in your hand when youre not gripping it in a normal manner, as Ive been saying all along. As long as you keep the mass of your arm behind the gun (ie, dont hold it sideways with two fingers) and dont allow your arm to move rearward in recoil, the gun will cycle. Just because your joints are unlocked, doesent mean you have to let them move rearward with recoil. But AGAIN, its obvious youve never tried, and seem to be afraid to (Todd forbid Im right
) or we wouldnt be having this discussion.
Maybe you just can't be objective?
Sure I can. I was trying to replicate the problem since Id never had it happen, and in a few cases, was able to, but only when the gun was either held in an unrealistic manner, and/or, I allowed my arm to move rearward with recoil.
Maybe "you" should try and be objective and do your own homework and prove it right or wrong, instead of constantly repeating something you read in internet pass alongs. I made the effort. Cant help it you dont like the answer. Your raving isnt going to change my actual results, no matter how bad you want them to, so chop, chop, you'd better get to it.