Glenn E. Meyer
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That's why folks should cut the crap and take basic pistol courses from a competent instructor.
When I hear....G26/G27....
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That's why folks should cut the crap and take basic pistol courses from a competent instructor.
If I used my range as a benchmark for shooters I'd look much better than I am when I take courses with other experienced shooters. Many people buy pistols, shoot them a couple times a year, and call it good. It's not surprising to see them have issues with this kind of regimen. Small pistols can be less forgiving of issues with technique and many people I see aren't shooting enough to get the fundamentals down or receiving additional instruction.
As for why it might seem more so with Glocks, you have to factor in how popular Glocks are. Even new gun owners are typically familiar with the brand when they enter the gun store for the first time and with many employees also using/knowing Glocks they get recommended a lot. There are just a lot of Glocks in the wild.
That's certainly doable. Again, private and public ranges aren't really the best benchmark. I don't think Glocks are somehow magically better than everything else on the market, but in owning basically every current production striker fired pistol I don't think they are deficient.
In owning both my honest opinion is no. The shooting dynamics between the two were very similar. Neither is as soft shooting as their fullsize brothers, but they both can work well.
2damnold4this
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I enjoy shooting my G26. Carrying it AIWB with the factory +2 grip extension, it conceals well. A G19 magazine pokes out a little too much in the same gun when carrying concealed but a G17 or G19 spare magazine makes for a great reload. Is it as comfortable to carry as a 642 or 342 AIWB? Of course not, but it's a lot easier to shoot well, reload and more than doubles the capacity. If it's cool enough to wear an undershirt, I carry the G26 in comfort. If it's too warm for an undershirt, I may tote a J frame.
Other people may like firearms like the Shield or G43 and that's great. I'd like to give them a try some time. One of those firearms might be a happier blend of capability and carryability than having to choose between the J frame and the G26. It would be nice to have one carry firearm that would serve in any season and be a bit more capable than the J frame but for now, I'll practice with what I have.
Other people may like firearms like the Shield or G43 and that's great. I'd like to give them a try some time. One of those firearms might be a happier blend of capability and carryability than having to choose between the J frame and the G26. It would be nice to have one carry firearm that would serve in any season and be a bit more capable than the J frame but for now, I'll practice with what I have.
Exactly, and it has nothing to do with Glocks.
I shoot my 26 just like I shot my 17, with about 90% of that being reactive/proactive type shooting. I really see no difference in the hits on target with either model.
If the gun is moving around in your hand, youre doing something wrong, and I would have to think, its not just the 26 you have the issue with.
Im 5'6", and float around between 155/160, and I carry a 17 AND a 26. Ive carried like that, fat and skinny, and for decades too.
If it is, then use it.
I shoot all manner of things, and really have yet to find one I couldnt shoot, especially once I spent some time with it. I think a lot of theses type threads are more about people who have little to no experience with anything but what they have, and dont bother, or arent willing, to try and learn something else, so anything they dont do well with, is bad, or junk, etc. The sad reality is, they are the actual problem, but of course, we all know how that goes. Its NEVER the shooters fault.
Big mouthful of truth here.
Glenn E. Meyer
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Great posts. IMHO, if a shooter picks up a modern semi from a quality manufacturer and shoots all over the target - the fault is in the shooter.
I see folks blame the sights, the grip, the karma, blah, blah. Nope - your midi-chlorians need to go to gun school.
At the higher end of shooting, such nuances are important but they do not explain shooting all over the target.
I see folks blame the sights, the grip, the karma, blah, blah. Nope - your midi-chlorians need to go to gun school.
At the higher end of shooting, such nuances are important but they do not explain shooting all over the target.
lee n. field
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There's a lot of things I see on Internet gun venues, that I have a hard time giving credibility to.
Spot on. I alternate between my G17 and G26 for EDC and I shoot them both well, with equal competence. The G26 does shoot like a full frame gun. Having owned and shot other more pocket-friendly guns like the G43 or Shield, I will take the G26 every time. My Garrett Industries STX 2.0 does make the G26 virtually disappear.
It's all completely subjective, as many have correctly stated. To each his own...
Important point- if the G26 universally moved around so much, it wouldn't sell like it does. Regardless, this isn't relegated to Glocks, but is true with any gun you aren't shooting "well." Either you learn how to shoot a particular gun, or you get something else. Move on, be happy...
Glocks catch hell because they are so popular. It's a societal thing, to bash a leader.
No huge secret.............I'm not a Glock fan. I don't particularly like the grip angle, the grip contour (feels very square), the trigger pull (one of the worst on the market IMHO), the factory sights, they don't conceal well (for me), just a lot of things I don't PERSONALLY like. The 26/27 models don't fit my hand well at all (6' at 220 ish, I have big meat hooks).
That said, I've been a police firearms instructor for 15+ years now, and I can shoot any of the Glocks well, if I really knuckle down and try. I certainly wouldn't feel inadequately armed with one. They are a fine handgun for what they were designed for, which is a low maintenance, lightweight, dependable, COMBAT pistol (that term meaning being accurate enough to consistently hit man sized target at 25 yards). I don't carry one, but to me that has no bearing on how effective they are at filling their role. I own 40ish guns and I own 2 Glocks. One is relegated to safe duty, as it was my issued duty pistol when I worked for a different agency and had my badge number and department seal engraved at the factory when it was manufactured, so I was given the option to buy it when the agency went to the Gen4. The other is my wife's pistol, as she is required by her agency to carry either the 22 or 23. If it weren't for the sentiment and my wife's job requirements, I wouldn't own any Glocks.
Anyway, this rant is to say this - Just because it doesn't work for you doesn't mean it has no credibility. That's like saying the Ford F150 is a pile because YOU don't like the way the seating feels. That doesn't mean it's not an effective half ton pickup truck, that just means if it's that important to you, buy a different truck...............
That said, I've been a police firearms instructor for 15+ years now, and I can shoot any of the Glocks well, if I really knuckle down and try. I certainly wouldn't feel inadequately armed with one. They are a fine handgun for what they were designed for, which is a low maintenance, lightweight, dependable, COMBAT pistol (that term meaning being accurate enough to consistently hit man sized target at 25 yards). I don't carry one, but to me that has no bearing on how effective they are at filling their role. I own 40ish guns and I own 2 Glocks. One is relegated to safe duty, as it was my issued duty pistol when I worked for a different agency and had my badge number and department seal engraved at the factory when it was manufactured, so I was given the option to buy it when the agency went to the Gen4. The other is my wife's pistol, as she is required by her agency to carry either the 22 or 23. If it weren't for the sentiment and my wife's job requirements, I wouldn't own any Glocks.
Anyway, this rant is to say this - Just because it doesn't work for you doesn't mean it has no credibility. That's like saying the Ford F150 is a pile because YOU don't like the way the seating feels. That doesn't mean it's not an effective half ton pickup truck, that just means if it's that important to you, buy a different truck...............
I'll bet you're right.... Oh wait, no, I actually don't have that issue, even with my 640 shooting 357 mags rapid fire. Well, what do I know about my shooting, I'm just the guy holding the gun. I need affirmation from the Internet!
Regardless, maybe my tone was off, or maybe I hit a nerve. Well, I certainly have sparked conversation. Seems like I still need to work on the meaning ful part.
If you get 3 fingers on a g26 grip, even during recoil, raise your hand.
What? You think youre the only one?
I no longer have my 60, but I do have a couple of 642's, and they all wear/wore service stocks with a T grip. None of those wussy oversize rubber things.
I dont have any troubles shooting them with hot loads, but my hand doesnt much like me when I do.
I do, two on the front strap, and my pinkie wrapped underneath. Works great, and doesnt pinch my hand.
As I said, if you youre having troubles with the 26s grip, youre doing somethng wrong.
Hand raised.
I enjoyed shooting the G26 stock, with very little transition practice required from shooting a G17/19/20. That said, due to the suggestions in this forum, I picked up the GAP Enterprises Concealable Control extension. It's doesn't add capacity but it simply helps lock in the ring finger on the G26 grip- it makes a huge difference in ergonomic feel.
I imagine the extension would be downright necessary on the G27/29/33.
Captains1911
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Huh?
My 26 shoots like a full size gun because IT IS a full size gun. It's a big, fat chunky gun with the ends lopped off. It sits in your hand like a brick. I love mine because I can hit what I am aiming at and I can use 17 round mags with X Grip adapters, turning my 26 into a 17 with a 3 inch barrel.
For me the M&P wasn't, as I did not care for the trigger. I started with a Kahr K9, and still think it is a nice platform. The Glock works better for me than the M&P, both in terms of fitting my hand and shoot ability. You may be different though.
Also I mentioned the use of an extension; I use one as the gun sits lower on my belt. I don't mind having my pinky tucked under, but the extension ensures I can draw quickly with a full grip.
Deaf Smith
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Get a Pearce magazine floor plate extension sonny. I get ALL my fingers around my Glock 26!
100 percent agree!
Deaf
Vast majority of new guys at the range at holding brand spanking new Glocks...
not to mention all the new cops that have never owned before getting issued 'em...
may be a relatively local phenomina over the last decade, but the 'Net says it ain't far off...
especially on various gun board polls over the years.
"What was your first pistol purchase" threads...
Anyway, prior to Glock's emergence, there were quite a few 9mm & .40 pistols
with smaller frames, (most all metal & heavier, but still smaller in size)...
and if you show one of the Old School to a New Guy, they get really interested!
Heck, even the larger ones get play...like double-column 1911's
Vive La Differance!!