When a NAA Mini would be appropriate

I really don't think the Mini is inaccurate, for defensive purposes. I don't use the sights at all, instead I focus on snap shooting. Usually what I do is repeated, fast snap shots at a foot long-piece of 2x6 lumber at 5-7 yards. My drill consists of holding the Mini by the barrel/cylinder in my off hand or in a ready shooting grip in my strong arm pocket. When I "draw" it usually involves grabbing a ready grip from my off hand or simply taking it out of my pocket. I cock it while swinging to the target and shoot when it's about waist height. All this usually happens in under a second - I don't even dream of presenting my Kahr in less than 3 when it's really hidden.

There is no way I would rather use a knife. Sure, I keep my knives so sharp the BG wouldn't even feel it, but one pull of my index finger will lodge a piece of metal in the BG much deeper than a legal (< 3") knife will. The way I look at it, the knife does nothing the Mini can't - ie. poke holes - it simply does it with less movement, more quickly and at greater range. Also, I don't know anything about fighting with knives, in contrast to the years of snap shooting experience I have. What needs to be done is to combine a single-handed opening blade with a Mini:cool: One lever would cock the hammer and extend the blade, giving the user the option to stab or shoot.

By my sloppy writing, it looks as though the sleeping pills are working...
 
because there are only a few LEOs who practice shooting and are good at it. However, most civillians who carry practise a lot (I assume, no stats ready).
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Most LE have been trained more and practice more than most non_le. And relatively few civilians practice very much. Unless they happen to be competitive shooters, my research with CCW students is that few go shoot more than once a year, and most it is less than once a year.
 
I don't get it - we go to the range quite often and see the same people (most w/ CCW) out there all the time. Who are these folks that shoot so rarely?

I've owned and shot a mini, and loved it, but was forced to sell mine to buy another gun I wanted badly. Mine was accurate enough to kill rabbits and squirrels. It is not a toy, and I do think one could be part of your CC alternatives. There are times and places anything larger won't work. However, it is not enough smaller or lighter than P3AT to make me feel a real need to buy another.
 
I don't think you can group everyone together as LEO's, or as CCW's... I know individules from both groups that shoot alot, & that almost never shoot...

I have my own range, & shoot about 1/2 as much as I'd like to ( I'm a CCW guy ), but know LEO's who shoot 1/4 as much as I do, as well as some that shoot with me, & others that shoot more than I do...

IMO, it really depends on location & risk, & the persons desire to shoot or mantain profciency...

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BTW... I can shoot mine in pretty rapid fashion, reliably & accurately... mine does shoot pretty high with the ammo pictured, but I'm wanting to try some heavy subsonics, I think that will help regulate the sights better...
 
I don't get it - we go to the range quite often and see the same people (most w/ CCW) out there all the time. Who are these folks that shoot so rarely?
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that's it----you see the same folks out there all the time. You don't see all those other folks who don't practice.
 
as an amendment to my last post, & I agree, I know some CCW's that haven't fired thier gun since qualifying, & who might have had a very loose class as far as range qualifying in the 1st place...

... hey, there are all kinds of people out there, just like there are different proficiencys of the BG's...
 
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I know a guy who swears by his shotgun's stopping power that he has had unfired in his underwear draw (a pistol grip) for twenty years.

I have friends who talk all the gun talk, buy numerous guns and never have trained. They paper punch one or twice a year or shoot at a rock in the country.

Oh, well.
 
Not to be OT, but I have to open my mouth... I have never seen a legitimate reason for shooting a cat, feral or otherwise. We just saved 6 of 'em last week. As for the archetypal pit bull tearing at your sleeve, we rescued one of those too, and she's a far better creature than most folks I meet. Argue about whether this guy's deluding himself with a .22 or not, but save your dog- and cat-killing tales for someplace else, thank you.
 
Most any gun is better than none... I don't have experience with the NAA.22 but it sounds a might too slow for my liking.
As for ferral cats... in Florida they fall under my Nuisance Wildlife permit and I can trap, shoot or dispatch them in any legal method! I never charge for ferral cat removal jobs as long as I can shoot them! They are the scourge of the woods depleting many species of wildlife starving out natural predators!
There are very few cases of a pure pitbull attacking man... Dogs yes but not man! They are dog aggressive by nature but it takes imparting junk mutt dogs to make a "bulldog" looking man biter!
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jabotinsky- this is your 12th post. if you don't like what you find, maybe there are more suitable forums. I applaud your kindness to domesticated animals, but must tell you that people shoot stuff and discuss on this site. people in the country view unwanted animals differently. I just warn you, you will not dissaude most here from long standing behaviors
 
people in the country view unwanted animals differently.
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Excuse me? Not quite.

I've helped get people who shoot at domestic animals for no reason convicted on animal cruelty charges. One got a felony conviction. It was a chipped animal that had gotten loose, and I think there was a civil suit by the owner as well. For all I know, they're still in jail, and if so, good riddance.

It's against the law, it's cruel, and someone who shoots at harmless domestic animals for sport is human trash and of no value to the race, IMO.

Domestic pets, even if they get loose, are not there for your target practice. They trust humans. Keep it up, and eventually, you're going to lose your guns and end up in jail, and I'll cheer on the law when they do it to you.

Don't generalize gun owners. I have no problems with people who shoot things to eat. I shoot at paper targets, and will shoot in self-defense. But using domestic animals for target practice, people who do that are a waste of oxygen, IMO.
 
Wow, the tone of this thread has gone down considerably. Manedwolf, that's a pretty high level of antagonism don't you think?

Yes people in the country do have different ideas about such things. I have some photos of dog-mauled chickens and guineas which I won't post here as they are too offensive. Dogs don't fare well when somebody dumps them out in the country. There are many worse evils in the world than putting down some pitifully scrawny, diseased and wormy dog. Concerning feral cats, the rule of thumb should be that if it will come to a human who's offering food it is a pet which needs to be taken to the animal shelter and if it won't it is a predator which should be put down.

Back OT I do not think the little NAA guns to be sufficiently controllable for safe and humane medium and large pest control, though I think that if they are loaded with shotshells they might have a place as a snake weapon.
 
I have never seen a legitimate reason for shooting a cat, feral or otherwise.
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One should always keep in mind that their personal limits do not always apply to other folks. When I was on the farm we took in many abandoned animals, but we also wouldn't hesitate to kill them when they became a nuisance and/or a threat.
 
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