But the out of the box triggers on 99% of the 1911's sold come with a 5-7 lb trigger pull. Exactly the same as 99% of the Glocks,....
Whoever said that needs to practice a lot more.and at 25yds the groups are 10" plus
I've been doing a lot of reading lately. Mostly about Glocks. When the article is a gun review the Glocks will glow! Some of the articles I been reading have been "Off the Shelf" ammunition review/testing. It seems that the Glock is at its best when left in the safe. When a Glock is loaded and on the firing line, it goes downhill fast. It doesn't seem to differ, bullet type, bullet weight, by 20yds the groups will open up to 6"to7", and at 25yds the groups are 10" plus. I got an old 1911a1 that I borrowed from the Army in Viet Nam in '66 that still shoots better than that . . .
My rifle club had 10”steel plates at various ranges. I can hit the 50yd plate all day long with my G26.
Well, your "clarification" is no more accurate than your original post.Bake Some of you may want to check out my post again. The Glock when it's the subject of a regular gun review, Glows [ that means "Very Very Good!]! It's only when it is being used as a testbed for ammunition, that Glock becomes guilty by association. I'm sure the Glock can benefit from a little Ammo testing.
What specific sources are you finding that indicates Glocks have troubles making groups that are smaller than 10" at 25 yards?The Glock when it's the subject of a regular gun review, Glows [ that means "Very Very Good!]! It's only when it is being used as a testbed for ammunition, that Glock becomes guilty by association. I'm sure the Glock can benefit from a little Ammo testing.
Nonsense.PocketCamera
you do realize that glock exists on being the cheapest possible bidder for government and police contracts. and that they RELY upon the association of "its what the FBI/SEALS/local police use so it MUST be the ultimate in reliability" in order to sell to civilians...
you do realize that glock exists on being the cheapest possible bidder for government and police contracts. and that they RELY upon the association of "its what the FBI/SEALS/local police use so it MUST be the ultimate in reliability" in order to sell to civilians...
Appears you read a lot of articles... and, like the OP, it appears you don’t have any actual user experience.crap, i saw an article stating Charter and its "limited useage recomendation" was no issue as MOST handguns only see 1 box of ammunition a year at most, and in some cases, a handgun or rifle gets bought with a box of ammunition and in the life span of the owner, the box may never get used up.
I have seen far to many articles that state hunting rifles may get 5 rounds a year by the average user. as a result... just about anything that doesnt blow up when fired is an excellent weapon.
So if most of your users only shoot perhaps 20-50 rounds of ammunition year through a glock, does it make glock the most reliable design?
Finally, at around 325,000 rounds, the trigger pin broke, causing a stoppage. It was quickly replaced and shooting resumed. Then, after another hundred rounds, the firing pin tail chipped, but the gun continued to function. The trigger pull weight changed, however, indicating that something had happened. So the gun was once again field-stripped and examined, disclosing the chipped part. Since then, no further failures have been experienced.
The verdict? The net result of 29 years of carrying the Glock 17, dry-practicing with it, immersing it in water, mud, sand, dust and even cow manure, and shooting it in extreme heat, extreme cold, rain and blowing dust has only produced some insignificant actual wear and tear. From a Ransom Rest, the test G17 still clusters any kind of decent ammunition into an inch or better at 15 meters. The only visibly detectable wear has been with the finish, which has understandably become bit thin, especially where various parts contact the holster and shooting hand, and the magazine well shows some battering from tens of thousands of speed and tactical reloads. No other handgun of which I am aware can equal this kind of toughness. I’m confident in that.
One modification, that Glock has come up with, a dumb one! Forward striations on the slide "For press checking!" Does not the extractor stick out when a round is chambered?
When we moved from Canada in 2004, I brought three Glocks with me. And once I obtained my Green Card (My Son was a Citizen) I purchased a Glock 17, Gen4 with a surprisingly good trigger. My first IPSC match, in Jacksonville FL, had a field course, the furthest target was at 45 yds. And only had the center 6" as a target to score, all on each side of the center 6" was blacked out.
The young guy who was patching the targets called me down to see my target (because it was so far away I had fired 4 rounds, standing) the 4 rounds hit center chest (If it had a chest!) two touching, one an inch away, one 3" away) He said he could not have done that with a rifle! I let him in to a secret, neither could I.