what would you do in a stick up situation?

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this might have been asked, but i couldnt find it on these forums

so lets say you just went shopping, its dark out, and some one runs up from behind on you(putting items in car). lets also say you have a bit of cash, some jewelery on and what not. they have a gun, you have a gun, only problem for you is, his is drawn. his guns pressed to your back and he's telling you if you even hick up, he's dropping you. do you give it up? or do you go for your fairearm? i know there might be some certain circumstances and variables that could change things, but for the most part he caught you with your pants down and if he's serious you risk dying being resistent.. what would you do?
 
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this might have been asked, but i couldnt find it on these forums

so lets say you just went shopping, its dark out, and some one runs up from behind on you(putting items in car). lets also say you have a bit of cash, some jewelery on and what not. they have a gun, you have a gun, only problem for you is, his is drawn. his guns pressed to your back and he's telling you if you even hick up, he's dropping you. do you give it up? or do you go for your fairearm? i know there might be some certain circumstances and variables that could change things, but for the most part he caught you with your pants down and if he's serious you risk dying being resistent.. what would you do?


I think that until we find ourselves in that situation it's difficult to say what we would do in reality.

Sometimes I think we get it in our minds that since we now carry a weapon, we are suddenly capable of fending off an attack, and that kind of thinking may get us killed.

The best way to prevent such a situation is to be aware of our surroundings and to avoid them if possible.

If it's not possible, then the circumstances may dictate the appropriate response.
 
Give up your stuff...live to fight another day...And never, ever forget his face..you just might see him again.
 
Gun in your back.

You could try to be a hero and do the turn and swipe that gun to the side as you turned and drew your weapon but then again you could shot immediately.

I'm reading more and more about criminals that are simply shooting their victims anyway after they get their valuables so they cannot be witnesses against them.

Have the gun drawn,or at least in an area in front of you where you can easily get to it.

The bad guy asks for your wallet-give IT to him.

Just make sure it's loaded and safety off before you draw.

And for God sake,don't try to reason with a guy that drew a gun on you to rob you.

Come up blazing.

There's your discussion,bad guy.

I'm with those that say,be very wary and aware of your surroundings at all times out in public.
 
I would do as told, get as much ID as possible, and if events allow go for my gun

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nobody wants to get shot, or killed at that

its kinda hard to say i guess.. a couple factors are going to take effect, the main 1 being fear..most people freeze in deep fear, especially the fear of being shot. i know everytime i think about getting shot all i can see in my head is a **** bag, or a wheel chair, even worse a coffin.

but sometimes you can fight back. what made me ask this was a story i saw in the papper a while ago

a man was going into his appartment at about 4:30 am, when a man ran up from behind in and put his gun right behind the mans ear. the man somehow managed to get his gun out and fire first. maybe the mugger didnt have the intention to actually kill him who knows

this was the story

http://johnrlott.blogspot.com/2008/12/robber-killed-in-street-robbery.html
 
personally i would just give up. as long as hes behind you with a gun theres absolutely nothing that can be done. on the other hand if hes facing you and you think he is definately going to kill you, you might want to try something just to say you did. getting in a close range shootout beats getting shot in the head anyday
 
or you could pretend that you are having a heart attack, fall on your back, put your hands in where the back is, pretending that you hurt your back and try to draw the pistola and shot that @%$#

:mad::barf::mad:
 
Tough situation to get out of if it becomes violent.

My actions would depend on the exact circumstances, normally i'd give the guy my money and hope it doesn't end bad.

If I got the vibe he was gonna shoot, then there isn't an option, I'd have to try something.

The main goal is to make him miss the contact shot, if the gun is pressed to your head then ducking down while tilting your head could work.

If it's held to your back, then your stuck with the turn and swipe or other similar method, which are harder to pull off unharmed.

The main goal is to give yourself enough time to get your weapon into the fight.

In a face to face robbery where there's a bit of distance the best option tends to be retreating at an angle. Forcing them to turn to track their target, and increasing the distance making it harder for them to hit. Getting beyond the range where point shooting is effective, and using your own sights to get hits.

In our situation, it's much harder to get passed that point shooting range, and I'm not sure I wouldn't just forget distance, and my gun, and use my knife.

It's the one time where it's not a horrible disadvantage to bring a knife to a gunfight.
 
In Ohio we're not allowed to use deadly force to protect property. Drawing your gun could make the guy mad (because you're not following the rules). He might even sue you for turning a simple exchange of property into an actual gunfight... :D

Seriously, if a guy has the drop on you hope he doesn't notice you're carrying and politely give him what he wants. If you really think he's going to shoot you no matter what you do then rely on your best judgement and act in accordance with your training. Hopefully you have some. Oh...don't keep your Carry License in your wallet.

As stated earlier the best defense is to be alert at all times. Do everything you reasonably can to avoid situations that would put you at risk. If that doesn't work, do as Kathy Jackson says, "fight like a cornered cat"... :)

http://www.corneredcat.com/Mindset/corneredcat.aspx

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Tough situation to get out of if it becomes violent.

The BG has a gun in your back - it's already a violent situation.

The ultimate solution is to be aware of your surroundings and the people in them so you don't get into that situation to begin with. If you feel the BG will kill you no matter what you do, you lose nothing by fighting back. This is serious - no Marquis of Queensbury Rules here. Knee groin - several times. Gouge eyes, choke, break bones, kick, slam head into concrete sidewalk, do WHATEVER is necessary to win. This is YOUR life at stake. If you can get his gun dropped or turned away long enough to bring yours into play, good! If you practice and are reasonably fit, it's easy to disarm someone who has a gun actually touching your back.

"rburch" is right - this is one situation where a flick or switch blade knife or easily-accessed pocket gun is preferable to your usual 1911-full-size-in-a-belt-slide piece.

It's a situation by situation call...
 
This kind of post points out the utility of FOF training as compared to speculation. Nothing like getting shot with simulated rounds when you plan goes awry - or seeing it work out.

There is no right answer - the answer(s) is have the skills to do 'something' that maximizes your survival.

I've seen it go right for the GG and wrong for the GG.
 
Circumstance will determine, but like others have said it's best to be as aware as possible & not get in that situation.
 
If a guy has a gun to your back then you've got 2 choices:

1) Comply and wait for an opportunity to act or until he leaves.

2) Put your head between your legs and kiss your arse good-bye.
 
In Ohio we're not allowed to use deadly force to protect property. Drawing your gun could make the guy mad (because you're not following the rules). He might even sue you for turning a simple exchange of property into an actual gunfight...

ohio just adopted the castle doctrine, so now you can defend your property.

hell, i might wait till he is leaving with my wallet, then shoot him in the back.
just because he is retreating doesnt mean he is no longer a threat, plus he now has my address, i consider an armed aggressor having my home address a threat of its self.
 
ohio just adopted the castle doctrine,

The Castle Doctrine has nothing to do with your wallet. It has to do with your home and, sometimes, your vehicle (RV's even), occasionally even a tent. If you shoot a mugger in the back you WILL go to jail.
 
I prefer not to let them get close, it's worked so far for me. :D

If someone other than me introduces a gun into a situation and they're "asking" me for my property then I feel it's only fair for me to "ask them" to start bleeding from multiple GSW's. Seriously though...

I don't know when a personal robbery suddenly became only a property crime? When they talk about not being able to kill over property they're saying that if you see someone stealing your car you left on the street you can't fire out your window at them. An armed robbery is by definition a VIOLENT CRIME against YOU!, not your wallet.
 
An armed robbery is by definition a VIOLENT CRIME against YOU!, not your wallet.

I agree with that but not when they're walking away. Bullets in the back makes YOU the criminal.

I'd have no problem trying to shoot if I got the chance and thought it was the best course of action, during the robbery. A gun in your back is NOT one of those times that drawing is your best chance at survival. After they turn and run the crime is over. Shooting them at that point, in almost all jurisdictions, is murder.
 
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