what would you do? gunbroker question.

Update:

So the last email I sent before I started this thread basically told him that I sent it to the correct address per gunbroker. But maybe ups could be contacted to retrieve the package, honestly I was kind of hoping it would have been sent back to me, but it wasn't. Yesterday I got an email from him asking what I was going to do about it, and if I checked with ups to see if the signature matched up (honestly I am not sure if I sent it signature requiered or not, as they didn't mention when shipping, and I have never had to sign for recieveing ammo. So I didn't even think to ask for it, as I have never had this issue) to his name. I did not contact ups yet as I thought he would.

I responded back that could he check with the new homeowners to see if they got it, and that I have not recieved it back. Again though since ups did deliver to the "correct" address that I shipped to I'm not sure if they would be helpful or not. Also he mentioned that it is a 5 month previous address, not longer that I thought.

With this new information, what would you all do?
Cliffs- I probably shipped not requiring signature as it is not a policy.
He moved 5 months ago, not 6.

Maybe he is on here?
 
It's on him to do something about this. Were it me, I'd tell him that and stop responding to his emails. The more you respond, the more he's going to think he'll get "something" out of you sooner or later. All he had to do was to give you his correct address in the first place.
 
Yea, when asked about the address he responded that it was on the envelope he sent with the check. I didn't even look at it there, why would I? If you have one listed as the correct one with gunbroker I'm not bothering to double check its the same as the enevlope. Now maybe if he had included a note that said something along the lines of he knows his gunbroker one is wrong, but please send it here. Even then though, I would wonder why he didn't update his gunbroker account.

Obviously this all could have been avoided had he updated his address, and I think I will let him know that.
 
You have shipper confirmation that UPS delivered the package to the address you pulled from gun broker, correct?

That should be information that UPS collects no matter what the signature request is.

All the signature does is confirm that someone was home when the package was delivered to the address you pulled from gun broker.

I'm still of the opinion that this guy screwed up. Who cares if his "new" address was on the return envelope. You pulled the shipping address from the system that he used to purchase the ammo.

That's a pretty logical place to get his shipping address.

He didn't tell you "hey, use the address on my payment envelope."

By purchasing through gun broker, he in effect affirmed that the address in gun broker's database was the correct address. By not doing so, it's his negligence, not yours.

At this point, it is up to him to deal with UPS and the fact that he screwed up.

My guess is that he's going to try to claim that "the shipper used the wrong address," and you're going to have to make sure that UPS knows that you used an address that he provided, but didn't verify.
 
Right, its still on him because he didnt keep his account current per GB's Terms of Service, thus creating his own problem.

He cant really check with ups though, they'll only assist the shipper. Only the shipper can file a loss claim, etc.

To finalize this you should get with ups for verification that it was delivered to the address listed in his GB account just to cover yourself. Maybe someone did in fact sign for it anyway.
IIRC, they'll have the receiver sign for stuff if someone actually answers the door, whether its required or not.
Go check with them, you might get lucky on the signature issue.
 
That may vary with the driver, but I don't think UPS requires a signature if the shipper doesn't indicate, or the item doesn't require a signature.

I know the UPS drivers here sometimes just hand me packages, and when I ask if I need to sign, they usually say no.

Even so, tracking info will verify the delivery and address.
 
So know he is wanting to know what I intend to do about it to make it right. I explained how this happened (not updating address) and how it cpuld be avoided. Also I let him know from my side of the street this looks questionable.
 
If you feel you must do something else, just message him again saying it was shipped to your address as provided, and received.

It's a big mean world out there, and it's full of cheats and scammers.

If you feel really, really bad about all of this, go ahead and send him a note, telling him that you feel really, really bad about all of this, then let him suck on it.
 
I would send him a link to gunbroker's user policy specifically referencing the section about maintaining a correct address. Tell him that you abided by the policies whereas he did not. You shipped the item and received confirmation of delivery to the address on file with gun broker. If this was not correct it is his fault...not yours.
Please don't take this the wrong way but even in this thread you come across as caring and kind-hearted enough that people like this guy may see you as a mark. You have fulfilled your obligations to this transaction. As far as I can see you are done with it and with him.
 
This has BS written all over it brother. I suppose that someone could have taken the package if the driver left it in front of the door. Which they do sometimes even when they are not supposed to. I have had them do that with things that had to be signed for. Still this smells fishy to me.
 
I think at this point I'd simply reiterate that you shipped the address that he provided on Gun Broker, that you'll be in touch if the package is shipped back, and end it there.
 
Without calling him a scammer I basically said the above Mike. I said due to the sketchy feeling I was getting about the situation, due to him be kicked off gunbroker, not updating his address.
 
He sent me a check for $170, honestly I maybe made $20, was more trying to help those out who coukdnt find the ammo.
 
Personally I would have confirmed the mailing address. Of more concern to me would be who got the ammo shipped? I am a little perplexed though by the comment concerning "not living at the address" and "checking he front desk". Was he living in some flee bag motel that had a front desk?
 
Yea, looking back I should have confirmed it, but honestly why should I. He should have updated it. He is stating that the old address is empty now and has been since he moved, but he would ask the realtor to go by there to check(said that a week or so ago) but never answered me about if they found it.
 
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