What rifle would you grab first?

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Let say Bush never apologizes to China (which I don't think he should anyway), and things escalated to a nasty level. One day you look out your windows and see the Chinese army headed toward your home. What rifle would you want in your hands to defend you home and country? Also why would you select that rifle?

I would choose my AR15. It is light and good for short to medium range.
 
Savage 110 in 7MM Magnum.

I will run to the tree line and start picking off Senior NCOs first. Three shots and then I am done for a day.

I can't stop an Army BUT I can make it not sleep well!

And I can make it Paranoid.

Make a practice of shooting anyone alone make them bunch up for protection.

;)
 
Spanish Mauser FR-8 in 7.62x51mm NATO. Why? Well, I could give you all a whole rigamarole about how the Mauser action is so astoundingly reliable (which it is), and how the .30 cal NATO round packs a good punch (which it does), but you want to know the real reason:

It's the only rifle I've got. Poor students like me don't have too many options. :( Oh well, maybe I'll put together some money and get one of those Romanian AKs or something cheap like that. I'd really like a FAL, but certainly can't afford that right now. C'est la vie!
 
I'd want what the used in Korea when the 3 million chinese went over the hill. A 50 cal Browning machine gun, a whole lot of ammo, and extra barrels.

It did the trick then.

-Fuzzy
 
I'd want what the used in Korea when the 3 million chinese went over the hill. A 50 cal Browning machine gun, a whole lot of ammo, and extra barrels.

It did the trick then.

Amen to that. The Pusan perimeter held against vastly superior numbers for 3 reasons. 1) the river 2) naval bombardment and 3) the M2 heavy machinegun. Enemies had trouble setting up machinegun nests with their maxims that were safe from it.. if I had to pick a 4th reason I'd say it was the water cooled .30 cal Browning....
 
lets see an M1 or an M2 Carbine and a M1911A1 seeing that the carbine did the job in Korea and it can still do the job today.


or my AR15 and my Walther-P99:D
 
I would probably sit and look at my AR15 and M1A. I would stare and look back and forth between them. While I would still be trying to decide, there would be a Chinese tank crushing my house.

Really, I would probably just pick both my AR15 and my M1A--Especially because I would probably have a friend or two with me.

Much more important than what gun to grab is how to employ that gun in the given situation. Because those Chinese are attacking with AK47s or similar AK style guns, I would use my rifle's greater accuracy and long range potential to my advantage. Stay hidden, find the perfect place to do some "sniping", and run like heck once they move to get in range.

In all reality, I think the Chi-Coms will drop nukes before they send troops.
 
That sounds like terrible odds. The whole China Army, LOL. If you can not beat your enemy then 'harass' them. I would grab the ole Ruger 10/22mag and several thousand rounds of ammo. ::Tink-Tink:: What the?!
 
The Chinese Army? Headed towards my home?

Hmmm ... for a moment there I was worried you'd come up with some silly, paranoid delusion ... ;)

I suppose an AK might be a good idea, considering ammo compatibility and all ... ;)

Regards from AZ
 
Unless you live on the Chinese border, I seriously doubt the Chinese army would ever get close to your home.

Sheesh, some people will use any excuse to buy another gun. :)
 
While I feel it very unlikely that military force will result from this standoff, I have used the recent events in China as a reminder and wake-up call. A situation like this is the most fundamental, if unlikely reason for the right to bear arms. This was reinforced by a related thread at Glocktalk entitled "Are you a minuteman?", a thread about battle rifles.

Living here in California, I feel that if "bad things happened" California would be one of the main front lines. In addition, my location, in the Santa Clarita Valley, has some military significance. Santa Clarita, in addition to being close to Los Angeles and Edwards Air Force Base, is somewhat of a crossroads in California, where the east/west and north/south travel routes converge. While this was much more significant in the past before major highways, ask how fun it was right after the '94 Northridge quake, when the 5 and 14 freeways went down just south of Santa Clarita, and the roads jammed. I know that we were cut off such that doctors had to be flown in by helicopter. In fact, I have heard (I'm not sure if it is true) that a Chinese military strategist once named Saugus, CA (The main part of the SC Valley at the time)one of the top ten military strategic targets. This was obviously before freeways, but it would hold that by controlling this location, interstate ground movement, whether of people or supplies, would be severely hampered.

If faced with impending or occuring invasion by foreign military forces, I would resort to tactics mentioned by previous posters. My first response would not be to engage, but to escape and evade, only fighting if necessary.

In light of the fact that the enemy would have vastly superior firepower and numbers, I would try to muster at least a small group of trusted compatriots. I would utilize the sewer system, friendly american families, and the interconnected mountain ranges that surround this valley to conceal our actions.

At this time, I consider myself poorly prepared for an event of this magnitude. However, I do have a "go bag" that consists of an A.L.I.C.E. backpack, loaded with water, CB radio, a change of clothes, a sleeping bag, ammunition, maps of the area, both road and topo, and various other supplies. I am now saving for one of those Blackhawk Vests, which I will use to carry more ammo, accessories, and first aid equipment.

I have a Springfield M1A Scout, a rifle with good power, range and accuracy. I only have two ten round magazines, since I do not trust the junky 20 rounders that I have, so I am going to get several stripper clips, which I feel will be more compact, and I can afford dozens of them for every one magazine.

In addition, I hope to soon get a Mini-14 for closer range encounters. The unfortunate thing is that being in California, I cannot obtain an AR-15 or AK style weapon. Some would scoff at the Mini-14, saying to just stick with the M1A, but I feel that it offers some advantages.
First, the Mini is significantly lighter than the M1A. Second, the Mini uses a smaller cartridge, and therefore one can carry more ammunition for it. Third, magazines for the Mini are significantly less expensive than for the M1A (remember, I live in CA, and High-Cap mags are illegal to purchase, so I am limited to ten rounds.) Lastly, the Mini has less recoil than the M1A. This allows faster follow-up shots with multiple targets--a likely scenario wiht an invading army. In addition, the reduced recoil makes it a good gun to lend if I find others willing to participate.
I will stock enough ammunition, both .223 and .308, to be able to sustain, but still move around. Hopefully, I will be able to "plant" some ammo in a predetermined spot for aquisition later.

Besides the primary long-arms, I have a shotgun that I would use as a close range "fort-defense-weapon, and I woud carry either my Glock 23 or one of my 1911's, all of which are 100% reliable. Many people recommend a 9mm, due to high capacity and military compatibility, but I feel that since a handgun is sort of a "last ditch" weapon anyway, ammunition capacity is not so much an issue, and I could carry enough toget by. Besides, I would rather use the space to carry more rifle ammo. Also, i don't fully buy into the compatibility argument either. If I can gain access to ammunition, I can certainly gain access to those weapons. I would just take a Makarov or other weapon. If I can't use my weapons to obtain more, I won't be around too long anyway.

Hopefully it will never come to the point where I have to use this stuff, but if things happen, I will fight to protect my country, my family, and myself.
 
I too would want something in 7.62x39, but if I lived long enough, a single shot to any straggler would get me that. So just about any hunting rifle would be fine as long as you were acting alone. Hide and shoot. Repeat.
 
It would have to be my Norinco Mak-90. Not to mention utter reliability, I couldn't resist the irony.

My understanding is that the M1 Carbine performed poorly against the winter clad Chinese in Korea, requiring multiple hits to bring them down.
 
Enough M16 praise. Sure its a more accurate than an ak, and may be better suited for range/target shooting, and limited urban engagements... but once you hit the magic 200 to 250 round wall- the bolt is so fouled with debris and dirt, the $750 accu-rifle becomes a jammo-matic. When confronted with human wave situations, 250 rounds goes extremely quickly, and then your up a creek with no paddle. If it was me, id go with ole'faithfull. A nice AK or similar variant. I could shoot it all day and night, into the air and lobb em down onto the enemy formations. And in battle, id never have to worry about take down and cleaning.
However, being that im in california, i'd reach for my M1A (all i could keep here). But if the Chineese refrain from invasion for another few years, im sure i may be down to throwing rocks at them the way things are going.
My 2cents.
 
Hey, this could never happen! Hi cap mags and assault rifles would be confiscated at the border. Senator Feinstein Et Al will protect us after all!

And.............

The Chinese, without their weapons, would instantly go on welfare and eventually all the new "citizens" would vote Hillary into office, we become a Marxist state and complete the cycle.
 
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