What is the best trigger job I can get on a glock?

I can shoot DAO just fine, but that doesn't change the fact that I prefer a SA handgun. I believe in to each their own, but if you are worried about having a nice trigger pull, Glock is one of the last companies I would look at. If I wanted a gun I know would be reliable when I was rolling around and crawling through dirt and mud, and wanted to put shots on target reliably.... yea than I would probably take a Glock with me. However for MOST of us CCW, a trip to the store to get milk doesn't require us crawling through a ditch.:rolleyes:

For the money your going to sink in to give a Glock a trigger job, you could of probably spent on something you might enjoy more out of the box.

I owned a Glock I have nothing against them, but Kahr for a DAO CCW gun, have hands down the best DAO trigger I have felt besides my tuned S&W revolver. It IS a long pull, but its super smooth and breaks clean. My PM-9 was a little too small for a all year carry so I am looking into grabbing a used K9.
 
It's not the weight, it's the length of pull.The Glock was marketed to police agencies from the beginning with the selling point that the long miserable trigger pull would mean less accidental shootings of suspects held at gunpoint.
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You are saying that Glock marketed guns with long trigger pull lengths to prevent accidental shootings. I'm telling you that the Glock trigger pull is shorter than the SA trigger pull on many of the guns police already had.

What I stated above is quite true - the long pull was (and still is) a selling point for police agencies.
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Kodiacbeer why is the trigger pull length of the Glock shorter than the single action trigger pull length of say the Sig229, S&W 5906 & 39, beretta 92fs?

So either you are wrong or police agencies were fooled into purchasing a gun with a shorter trigger pull than what they had while expressing a desire to get a gun with a longer pull to reduce accidents.
 
Glocks are designed to have a trigger pull that is heavier than those of SA guns or DA/SA guns in SA mode. The fact that reduced-weight connectors are available (even from Glock) shows that the trigger pull weight on Glocks was a carefully considered design factor. The extra pressure require to pull a Glock trigger is supposed to be a safety factor that offsets the need for a manual safety or decocker.
 
Heavier than a DA/SA in single action mode I agree. Longer is incorrect.

If the sole concern of Glock was to reduce law suits they would have added a manual safety and upped the trigger pull weight. 5.5lbs stock is pretty light already and certainly not a "bad trigger". I believe that the 5.5 lb pull weight had more to due with reliability than law suits.
 
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Kodiacbeer why is the trigger pull length of the Glock shorter than the single action trigger pull length of say the Sig229, S&W 5906 & 39, beretta 92fs?
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Simply because it IS much shorter. You're confusing single action pull with double action pull and since you aren't familiar with those very basic facts, you probably shouldn't be trying to debate the point.

Lemme 'splain... Before cops went to the Glock, they were using a variety of wonder 9's and revolvers. All of those had a stout double action first shot that was quite safe, even when under stress. However, many cops would cock their piece in a fight so they didn't have to deal with that. And many times, they would discharge rounds and be left with a cocked piece.

There were a lot of big dollar lawsuits against police who "accidentally" shot a suspect they were holding at gunpoint with cocked (single action) pieces. Most of those probably weren't even accidental shootings - the guy might have went for the gun, whatever. Yet, in civil court the police invariably lost because the lawyer would rave on about the "hair trigger" and sway the jury.

This was one of the points that Gaston Glocks design addressed. Another was the simplicity of the design - no safety, etc, so you could just draw and shoot. That simplifies training and saves even more money.

There's nothing wrong with a Glock. That same long pull protects you (the civilian) from A/D's under stress. And that same simplicity helps you in the stress of a gunfight.

But... The long trigger pull is not there to aid the shooter, it's there to prevent A/D's. It's a lawyer trigger.
 
I believe that the 5.5 lb pull weight had more to due with reliability than law suits.
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You may need to explain how a certain trigger pull weight causes a gun to be more or less reliable.
 
Sorry my fault for not clarifying my thoughts. Reliable ignition of the primer. Less pop and she may not detonate reliably. Especially if a dirty gun is combined with reloads or hard primers like cci.
 
There's nothing wrong with a Glock. That same long pull protects you (the civilian) from A/D's under stress. And that same simplicity helps you in the stress of a gunfight.

But... The long trigger pull is not there to aid the shooter, it's there to prevent A/D's. It's a lawyer trigger.
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Theres really no difference between the long trigger and the short trigger, both just take a little training and practice to know how to deal with them.

Its not the guns fault if you cant shoot the trigger, regardless what it is. The fact that you cant (barring a "poor" trigger of any type), only proves youre lacking, not the gun.
 
Simply because it IS much shorter. You're confusing single action pull with double action pull and since you aren't familiar with those very basic facts, you probably shouldn't be trying to debate the point.
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No I am not confusing SA with DA. You said......
It's not the weight, it's the length of pull.The Glock was marketed to police agencies from the beginning with the selling point that the long miserable trigger pull would mean less accidental shootings of suspects held at gunpoint.
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I said to you that the SINGLE ACTION TRIGGER PULLS on many of the guns used by LE pre Glock are LONGER than the Glocks. Re read what I just said please.

Lemme 'splain... Before cops went to the Glock, they were using a variety of wonder 9's and revolvers. All of those had a stout double action first shot that was quite safe, even when under stress. However, many cops would cock their piece in a fight so they didn't have to deal with that. And many times, they would discharge rounds and be left with a cocked piece.
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So the answer was to give them a gun that had a shorter trigger stroke than their DA and also shorter than their SA? Does this even make sense?
 
So the answer was to give them a gun that had a shorter trigger stroke than their DA and also shorter than their SA? Does this even make sense?
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You've obviously never shot a single action trigger.
 
Theres really no difference between the long trigger and the short trigger, both just take a little training and practice to know how to deal with them.
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True. The point is about a stressed, adrenaline overloaded cop holding a suspect at gun point and then shooting him. It doesn't matter if the shooting was intentional (the guy went for the gun, etc) or accidental. What mattered was that in court, a lawyer could argue that a cocked revolver or cocked DA/SA pistol had a "hair trigger" and thus the cop accidentally shot the suspect - and that argument was often successful and cost police agencies millions of dollars. Those lawsuits (and there were a lot of them), had police agencies looking at DAO pistols.

Glock's solution was better - a pistol with the long pull of a DAO, but without the weight of a DAO. It was the perfect solution/compromise, and the rest is history.

"Good trigger" is a pretty nebulous term depending on the circumstances. Glocks are excellent pistols for self defense, and for police use, but "good trigger" (at least for me), doesn't fit.
 
Seriously, threegun and kodiak, take that crap to PM or start another thread about it and quit jacking this one, please, unless it relates to 3.5# connectors and how to get a better overall trigger.

To the Super-Dave, I installed a Ghost Inc. 3.5 Ultimate kit in my Glock 19 and absolutely love it. It was a drop-in kit that included the connector and either a 4lb or 6lb firing pin spring depending on whether it is for CCW or not, and a trigger spring. I also installed a Lightning Strike titanium safety plunger to smooth it out just that much more. All in all is was about $50 and it feels like a true 3-3.5# pull, with no noticeable creep and zero perceivable over travel. I use it for range and CCW and highly suggest Ghost Inc. and Lightning Strike, two high quality companies with great reputations. Best part, if you don't like it, it was drop in to begin with and you can simply swap back out to factory.
 
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No single action trigger pull on a standard DA/SA (or revolver) is longer than the Glock. Some of the DA/SA autos have a slight amount of slack or take-up in SA mode, but the trigger pull is relatively crisp. Revolvers (good revolvers) generally have almost a "breaking glass" pull even with the stock factory trigger.

You may prefer the Glock trigger, but to argue that it is shorter or crisper than SA trigger isn't even worth debating
 
Get the New York trigger - the good thing about a Glock is that it's easy to shoot - the bad thing about a Glock is it's easy to shoot. Watch your toes!
 
I've tried virtually every stock and aftermarket trigger upgrade that costs less than $30. My general rule for Glock triggers is that the entire safety mechanism of the gun is contained within - or related to - the pull of the trigger, so I refuse to do anything to compromise that safety.

So, for me, I won't go with a titanium striker, reduced power striker spring, titanium FPS, reduced power FPS spring, etc.

I've tried the following connectors: Glock OEM 5 lb, Glock OEM 3.5 lb, Scherer 3.5, LWD 3.5, the Ghost tactical, ranger, patrol, and rocket. I've tried extra power striker springs, extra power trigger springs, I've done the .25 trigger job, etc.

What I'm currently running is the stock Glock 5 lb connector with an extra power Wolff trigger spring.

The 3.5 lb triggers are all too spongy, and actually the Ghost Ranger, which is supposed to be 4.5 lbs, was the spongiest that I've felt. I prefer a crisp let off, even if it's a bit heavier. The reason being is that I prep the trigger for each shot by taking the slack out, then "bumping" it to the rear. The extra power trigger spring is great because it makes the initial takeup much lighter. I don't like a surprise break - I like to know when I'm at the point that the next incremental bit of pressure on the trigger is going to make the gun fire - so I don't like the NY trigger springs.


I actually did a lot of experimenting and took a lot of trigger pull guage measurements as I was experimenting with triggers for my Glocks. You can see the writeup at my blog: www.amateurpistolero.blogspot.com
 
I love the Drop-In Pyramid Trigger from Glockstore personally - the Ultimate Kit has everything you need and comes in more stock colors than any other kit. I've tried drop-in Fulcrum trigger from Zev but its not quite as crisp.
 
I had the full Ghost Rocket trigger kit put in my G23 and the armorer tuned it some while doing the install, thats about the best trigger I have felt on a Glock
 
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