What is a "Magazine Clip"?

" In my opinion constantly criticizing the ignorant on the terms only makes us gun owners look more extreme, and we don't need any more of that right now. "

In my opinion this is crowerdance. So what if it makes you know more exterme.
 
It is frustrating when you realize we are debating issues related to firearms with some folks that have no knowledge of the subject. I heard a commentator today state that while he supports the Second Amendment, “no one needs a semi-auto for hunting or self defense”. What?

Obviously he has most likely confused full-auto with semi-auto which has resulted in him pushing to ban the wrong product. I know many of the anti-gun groups are knowledgeable, but they are using the general public’s lack of knowledge against us.

That is why it is important for us to educate people without sounding too condescending.
 
In my opinion constantly criticizing the ignorant on the terms only makes us gun owners look more extreme, and we don't need any more of that right now.
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Go to your auto mechanic and tell him you are having problems with your tire. After he checks all your tires point to the steering wheel and tell him it is loose. Hilarity will ensue.
 
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I know that NY gun owners are only allowed to own 7 round magazine clips. The problem is, I can't figure out where I can buy a single round magazine, much less 7 of them! All of the magazines on the racks at my local stores are rectangular! ;)

[EDIT: Never mind. I figured it out. I have to roll them up. But then it's easier to use a rubber band than a magazine clip... ;)]
 
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Although the idiots probably never heard of them, I own about 150 clips. Stripper clips, that is. I suppose they could be called magazine clips.
 
Doesn't the M-1 (Garand) use a magazine clip? ;)

I tend toward Mark Twain's view of using language correctly: "The difference between the right word and almost the right word is like the difference between lightning and the lightning bug." I think people who use terms incorrectly should be tactfully informed of the error and the correct usage. To a large extent whoever is allowed to define the words used in the debate wins the debate.
 
Stripper clips, that is. I suppose they could be called magazine clips.
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I believe the Garand and some other battle rifles used an en bloc clip that was inserted into the magazine loaded full of ammo and were ejected when the lasr round was fired. This seems like the most likely thing that could be called a magaxine clip. Or maybe something like a spring clip that held a magazine together, though I have never seen anything like this.

While arguing semantics might make us look more extreme, it might also make some people realize that they don't know much about firearms and take some of the ignorant arguement out of them. A guy at work was talking about his three "assault weapons" (ARs). I asked if they were full auto. No. I asked how many people he had assaulted with them. None. How many times he had defended himself with them. None. What makes them assault weapons? They have pistol grips, collapsible stocks, and 30 round clips. I asked what is a clip. It is what you put the bullets in. This guy is one of us. I just turned back to my keyboard and monitor contraption and went back to work. Some people can't be helped.

The problem of these ignorant people is that they are the ones making policy and law for all of us.
 
I look at the magazine/clip issue as the same as the assualt weapons debate.

The devil is the details.

One of my Fraternity Brothers was very adamant about an assualt weapons ban until I showed him a picture of my Mini-14 and the new 'tactical" Mini-14 and said that they were the same rifle but one would be illegal, the other wouldn't.
 
It's what some manufacturers call them to distinguish them from tube magazines, which probably some of you have heard of but probably never seen.

English is a funny language, even for us foreigners. You know, the way flammable and inflammable mean the same thing, just like ravel and unravel. It really mystifies me how people get so confused about clips. But the topper is the way Colt just had to go and call their newfangled pistol a .45 automatic when everyone in their right mind knows you still have to pull the trigger.

It's probably even funnier in French but of course no such confusion exists in German.
 
Is it bad that I love getting funny looks when I refer to my M-1991A1 as a Government Model .45 Automatic just to segway into a lecture on the difference between an automatic pistol, revovlers, and machine pistols?
 
Doesn't the M-1 (Garand) use a magazine clip
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The M1 Garand uses an En Bloc clip, the clip gets inserted into the garand's magazine which is where the follower is located that pushes the rounds into feeding position. Similar concept as a stripper clip, it holds the rounds in place to be inserted into the magazine, except with the garand of course the clip goes in with the rounds.
 
Is it bad that I love getting funny looks when I refer to my M-1991A1 as a Government Model .45 Automatic just to segway into a lecture on the difference between an automatic pistol, revovlers, and machine pistols?
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Don't know, but how do you feel when a know-it-all lures you into a trap so he can explain something you don't really care about? Something that ultimately makes no difference? That's how anti's view us, and it's not a wholly inaccurate view.
 
Well, I don't do it to be a know-it-all, I do it to educate.

Similar to how I go on epic rants concerning the legality of true, honest to your make assualt rifles.
 
BarryLee said:
I know many of the anti-gun groups are knowledgeable, but they are using the general public’s lack of knowledge against us.

That is why it is important for us to educate people without sounding too condescending.
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Exactly.

And we need to find a way, as tactfully as possible, to also convey to the unknowledgeable that they ARE being deliberately, intentionally disinformed and misled. And I use the word "disinformed" intentionally. "Misinformation" can be accidental, as in passed from one unknowledgeable person to another. When someone knows what's correct but intentionally propagates incorrect information -- that's "disinformation."

In other words, we need to be careful how we tell them but the masses are being lied to. The reason we have to be gentle is that, while people generally don't like being fooled, they also don't like being TOLD that they've been fooled.
 
might be a bit of metal or plastic that attaches a box magazine to web gear or your belt. you could always pose that question to media types, depending on the amount of ignorant blather one is willing to absorb or be exposed to.

Ditto for assault weapon/assault rifle", though there are some surprising exceptions to be found, if one looks
 
Only feed device I can think of offhand that would fit the term "magazine clip" is the feed device used on some early crank operated rapid fire guns.
It was basically a gravity feed clip constructed somewhat like a stripper clip only without any spring.
It fed directly into the feedway the cartridges picked up by the bolt with no box magazine in between.

I believe these were the basis for the later stripper clips used in charging a box magazine.
 
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