What I Don't Like About Glock...

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I took the firing pin safety out, put an inspection plate on the back, loaded a primed 9mm and pushed down the cruciform with a punch. It fired.

Thanks. I agree. I used an old trigger housing and replaced it after the test. I’m pretty sure I bent it down some.

So..... You removed a critical safety, physically manipulated parts in a manner inconsistent with normal operation to the point that you damaged said parts all to prove your point that the gun is unsafe?

WOW.

I could do that with any firearm.
 
What do you want. A gun that shoots Gamma Ray's? Something that George Jetson would be shooting? How does a over crowded market actually affect you? Sure doesn't me. Glad to see new designs all the time. And obviously we are seeing that. Love the way the striker can be removed on the New Mossberg. A over crowed market, means more innovation and they are coming down the road. Just pay attention.
Wow you went a bit overboard there. Let me get you a life jacket.

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Here's the thing many people don't know about the Glock. It was originally designed to be an economically made piece for the military. Effective, inexpensive and virtually disposable.
 
I guess the thing I like the least about glock is how many other major manufacturers are
mindlessly cash-whoring, by copying the glock design,in order to grab a piece of the glock
market, instead of making a better, newer design pistol of their own.
Kinda like Apple and their iphone/ipad..speaks volumes tho..Glock, they are accurate, reliable, easy to shoot and lots easy to carry..not sure what else it's suposed to be, a gun.

And for right above, 'virtually disposable'..ooops..lotsa of decade old Glocks out there that still work famously...:)
 
There's a lot to like about Glock!! Reliable, simple, tough as nails, good triggers, reasonably accurate. Mags and holsters can be found everywhere.
However, plastic cup and ball sights on an overpriced polymer pistol (with an awkward grip angle) is why all of my Glocks are now M&Ps.
But like I said, there is a LOT to like about Glock.
 
I don't like plastic pistols at all. The only new one I ever bought was a SiG. I have had a couple dozen Glocks, M&Ps, Shields, Kaltecs and others on trade. None were beaters they
were low round count guns. I wouldn't take a plastic pistol on trade unless it was in hi condition. Having said that there are none of them that I am afraid to carry. ADs are always operator error. Whether it's a trigger finger or careless carry its not the guns fault. This may
not be true for the low end ones, I've never had one and won't take one on trade if it was NIB. I have been out of bussiness since 92. I sold a lot of pistols to the small town PDs in
my area. This was just about the time PDs started switching to auto loaders. Small town PDs don't have the funds for extensive training and practice range time. I still think that the average small town cop is better off with a DA revolver. The Chiefs at most of these PDs gave officers a choice of revolver or auto. Most officers took the revolvers. Now same depts
are all auto and have been through 2 or 3 different pistols.
 
I just don't know how I can be 6 points down in a 5 stage, 40 target IDPA match with a Glock. It must be the grip angle. But that can't be as I can be the same points down with a 1911.

Until Wayne LaP's socialist wave arrives, the free market will decide what gun works for what people.

I did like the grip angle on the old DeSoto transmission levers.
 
My DeSoto was pushbutton automatic!! (1960 Fireflite - last production year)



(and, there was no "park" button :D)
Since we're on a tangent, I have yet to have someone explain to me why a button is so much better than a lever for the parking break. How can I do handbrake turns?

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Until Wayne LaP's socialist wave arrives, the free market will decide what gun works for what people.

Gotta explain that one to this FNG please..Not a fan of LaP, just don't know about the above.
 
November 2018 cover of the AR "Your vote is all that prevents the Socialist Wave on 11/6" as well as numerous editorials and mailings from Wayne announcing the threat of socialism unless I donate more money.

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It seems somebody always has to shoehorn political animus into a discussion about guns. If people don't like Mr. LaPierre's political (or otherwise) positions and opinions it would seem there are more appropriate venues to express their views. Or maybe I've just always been misinterpreting the Firing Line's Forum rules.
 
Re push-button automatics. I had too goofy friends, one of which, D, owned a Plymouth with a push-button transmission. I got a call from D one day, saying that the other one, W, had called him. "D, I got good news and bad news. The good news is I won the demolition derby. The bad news is I used your car." Not sure I ever laughed any harder in my life. W very generously gave D the prize money. Being around those two was like being in a slapstick comedy.
 
I had a '58 Dodge "Sierra" wagon that had the "TorqueFlite" tranny buttons. The transmission on that forgettable stinker was about the only thing on it that did work right.
 
So..... You removed a critical safety, physically manipulated parts in a manner inconsistent with normal operation to the point that you damaged said parts all to prove your point that the gun is unsafe?

WOW.

I could do that with any firearm.

No. You can’t.

Show me how to fire a S&W Model 10, at rest, without you adding the energy to fire it. (By cocking the hammer). That’s the way you would carry it. Not cocked, that would be unsafe. You can take out the hammer block, file down the block on the trigger rebound slide and, it still won’t fire. There’s no stored energy to fire the gun.

And, I never said glocks were unsafe.

I proved, to myself anyway, that a Glock has enough stored energy to fire in the carry condition.

“Safe Action” was a genius marketing campaign.

I won’t carry a cocked pistol (or one with enough stored energy to fire) pointed at my femoral artery and rely on mechanical devices to prevent it from firing.

It’s not exclusive to Glocks. I wouldn’t carry a cocked and locked 1911 appendix. The difference is, you can see a 1911 is cocked.

It’s really no big deal if others are OK with it. But, they should be aware.
 
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Show me how to fire a S&W Model 10, at rest, without you adding the energy to fire it. (By cocking the hammer). That’s the way you would carry it. Not cocked, that would be unsafe. You can take out the hammer block, file down the block on the trigger rebound slide and, it still won’t fire. There’s no stored energy to fire the gun.

The hammer block was added after several people were killed by dropped or mishandled revolvers. You removed the striker block, you invalidated any safety test.
 
When it was dropped. Adding the energy to fire it.

It was not a safety test. It was to dispel the theory, that I too believed, that a Glock was partially cocked. And, the action of pulling the trigger added the necessary energy to ignite a primer. It does add energy. But, there’s enough stored to fire it pretty regularly, without that last 1/8” or so of movement.

That is, by definition, a cocked pistol.

All of the safety devices in the current crop of striker fired guns and cocked and locked pistols have to work to prevent the gun from firing.

I prefer a handgun where I have to provide the energy to fire it for appendix carry.

I carried a Glock for 15 years. And a 1911 for over 20 years. Still do. I have no problem with them.... Carried on my right hip.
 
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