BusGunner007
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I shot a GLOCK once.
I didn't like it.
I didn't like it.
Well, they may be 'unlocked', if one's personal definition of 'unlocked' is: "not equipped with a manual safety", but they are only partially cocked unless the trigger is pulled.If you can get past the fact that they are cocked and unlocked pistols, they are good carry guns.
A $600 gun shouldn’t have delicate plastic sights. Everything else is just about perfect
Well, they may be 'unlocked', if one's personal definition of 'unlocked' is: "not equipped with a manual safety", but they are only partially cocked unless the trigger is pulled.
While it is possible to do a similar experiment and demonstrate that, at least some of the time a Glock striker has enough energy to fire from the partially cocked position, the method you describe is somewhat flawed.Except, there is enough stored energy to fire. I took the firing pin safety out, put an inspection plate on the back, loaded aprined 9mm and pushed down the cruciform with a punch. It fired.
Don't think they are 'cocked' in the sense of a hammer fired handgun..I was forced to carry a Glock. A 35 and a 22. Mechanically they are very good guns. I shoot them well enough. They are tough and reliable.
If you can get past the fact that they are cocked and unlocked pistols, they are good carry guns.
After I retired and I can choose what to carry, I will never carry a Glock again.
Striker fired guns, in a proper, trigger protected holster don't 'just go off'.
What's specific about it? That you can't Mexican carry? It needs to properly cover the trigger guard like a well made holster should.In other words, you need a specific kind of holster that acts as an external safety to safely carry a Glock.
Two points.Concern about Glock triggers is legitimate. It is a valid reason for not choosing a Glock as a primary carry. It's as valid a concern as many objections to da/sa triggers ("learning two different trigger pulls is hard") or single action pistols with external safeties ("I might forget to flick the safety off" or "lowering the hammer on a pistol can be dangerous", etc.).
When folks explain that Glocks are perfectly safe as long as the shooter keeps their finger off the trigger, well that's true. But as Hamlet said, "ay there's the rub".
Records from police depts. of unintended discharges over the last decade of more indicate that Glocks are more likely than other guns to fire in two particular situations: One is in holstering, where a finger or piece of clothing, etc. gets caught in the trigger as the gun is placed in a holster. The second is in disassembling the gun for cleaning when the trigger is pulled and a round is still in the chamber.
In the first case other guns can do this as well, instances have been recorded with da/sa guns. But the rate of this type of discharge is higher overall for Glocks and this is due to the trigger. The second type of discharge is particular to Glocks. Though again other guns have been fired when being disassembled but it is not as common as with Glocks due to the Glocks design.
This is not because Glocks are inherently unsafe or design flaws. It's just features that are particular to Glocks where shooters need to take special attention and training.
Handguns are built to make it easy for the trigger finger to reach the trigger...it's natural. In a fall or if someone grabs the gun to pull it away, or in trying to grab a gun that is falling, the trigger finger wants to go into the trigger guard for a stronger hold...naturally. This can cause a ud in most any type gun but in some designs it's easier than others.
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Concern about Glock triggers is legitimate. It is a valid reason for not choosing a Glock as a primary carry. It's as valid a concern as many objections to da/sa triggers.
Some would say the trigger and design is a valid reason FOR choosing a Glock. I would...
Records from police depts. of unintended discharges over the last decade of more indicate that Glocks are more likely than other guns to fire in two particular situations[/B]: One is in holstering, where a finger or piece of clothing, etc. gets caught in the trigger as the gun is placed in a holster. The second is in disassembling the gun for cleaning when the trigger is pulled and a round is still in the chamber.
Maybe because there are far more Glocks out there as other brands? Plus
Sounds like a bit of training is lacking..kinda the same as DA/SA triggers or failing to take the safety off. For ME, I think I'll 'live' with the trigger and no safety rather than forgetting the specifics of my EDC as the guy walks up and smacks me with that tire iron. Holstering and cleaning...hmmm..I think less important than effectiveness when ya gotta have it.
In the first case other guns can do this as well, instances have been recorded with da/sa guns. But the rate of this type of discharge is higher overall for Glocks and this is due to the trigger.
Saw a guy pull out a 1911 and shoot himself in the leg..'trigger' or crappy skills?
The second type of discharge is particular to Glocks. Though again other guns have been fired when being disassembled but it is not as common as with Glocks due to the Glocks design.
My goodness...can't legislate dumm-ness. Are ya cleaning it after 3-4 beers?
This is not because Glocks are inherently unsafe or design flaws. It's just features that are particular to Glocks where shooters need to take special attention and training.
That's true of any handgun..not unique to Glock.
Where is this database that records accidents across all police departments that you have access to (and does it account for the fact that it's pretty understandable for the most issued firearm to have the most negligent discharges by number)?
Folks are trying to get around something that they know is true but they don't like the taste of it.
Every type handgun from a single action and da revolvers to the Beretta 92, third generation Smiths and Sigs and the 1911 all have features that require specific training to get used to and to learn how to handle safely. All have specific characteristics as it were. Glocks are no different.
If you deny it ya lie to yourself.
A shooter is weaker if they don't take the time to learn the strengths and vulnerable elements of any pistol design.
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