What Happened to this Gun?

Thanks all for the insightful responses. They really got me thinking... Especially the point about the fact that it would have to have been a DA pull the second time. I don't remember having to pull the trigger that hard the second time. The DA pull is takes quite a bit more force compared to the SA pull and I'd like to think I'd remember having to pull it that hard for the second pull. This doesn't mean that it didn't happen (it very well could have).

It's interesting that what I experienced was a relatively rare event (but such has been the story of my life)... I would have stopped and thought about what happened in more detail had I known what just took place. All in all, I learned a very valuable lesson: if you pull the trigger and nothing happens, stop and check everything. It was my first time going shooting by myself (and the first time I fired a gun I bought) and I'll always remember it.

Anyway, the type of ammo I used is in the pic below (got it for $5.99 for 100 rounds from a big name retailer and I purchased 700 rounds).
Today, I fired the gun again (this time with different ammo) and everything went OK (although, being new at this, I have not idea, and probably never will know whether the aim was off). I only fired about 50 rounds (I spent the rest of the time firing the M&P 9 2.0 I just bought.. (also below)
And damn was it fun ;)
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Remington 22lr ammo is hit and miss...

Their higher priced hunting specific ammo seems to work ok, but their cheaper stuff, especially their bulk stuff tends to be spotty in quality.

Likely the rest will work fine going forward, but for cheap bulk pack ammo, or 500 round bricks... I would go with Aguila, Blazer, American Eagle, or Federal. I have had good luck with them all.

Some are more accurate or better overall, but all worked.

I have had an issue with lead build up in the barrels of Ruger 22lr pistols with stainless barrels... If I used plain lead bullets, like blazer, and not copper washed ones. The problem would go away after several thousand rounds of copper washed though... usually.

The Ruger SR22 is a good pistol, I liked mine. It was reliable, but didn't like plain lead as was mentioned above...


The M&P was a good choice, I have several of the gen 1 version.
 
Agree, weak case.
Gun designers have been working on disconnectors for 120 years and the Internet Expert Diagnosis of a blown casehead is "fired out of battery." I really doubt it.

Get a different brand of ammo, load one, shoot, load two, shoot. Then back to work.
 
I have had an SR 22 for about 6 years.

It is supposed to fire subsonic to supersonic. My 22 only seems to like supersonic and at least 1250 fps.

Tried standard a couple of days ago and it was lead headed ammo. Failure to feed 2 or three times out of every 10 rounds. 50 rounds total.

Reverted back to CCI mini mags and flawless. The gun is accurate enough for me to use it for cheaper grip and trigger pull practice and it has ended the life of a couple of snakes around my sheds who were after my pet yard geckos and skinks and baby birds.

I have friends who have the SR22 and they tell me they can fire anything with few problems.

I, too, have had problems with the Remington Golden in the SR 22, but they work just fine in my 10/22.

The biggest dislike I have for the SR22 is that the safety is "backwards".

OP, I do believe you are hooked....lol! Gun and ammo manufacturers are going to love you.
 
"...case separation very rare in quality 22 ammo..." It's rare with cheap ammo too.
"...need to take it to gunsmith..." Not since you got the bad case out of the chamber. It's highly unlikely there's any damage done. I'd change ammo though.
You may want to contact Remington and talk to 'em about it.
https://www.remington.com/contact-us
Please reduce the size of your pictures.
 
Golden garbage

I can always tell if I am shooting Remington golden bullets. Fools gold perhaps?

I can tell by the failures! I will rescind my earlier agreement to send the pistol in.
Just avoid the golden bullet junk. I bought some during the shortage,it served it's purpose.....better than nothing....but not by much.
 
I suspect that the ammo was handled carelessly as to contaminate a round. I say that because I have done it my self with all types of ammo. Of course the round its self could have had a defect that could have caused extra friction when entering the chamber. The pistol has not been kept clean could have been the cause for a tight fitting chamber. I like Remington standard velocity ammo and don't remember any defects with them. But my memory has been slipping lately.

Try a few types of ammo for accuracy and clean burning powder. Take a good look up the empty barrel as you get to the end of a box. And stay away from those bulk boxes they might get handled roughly.

Give it a good cleaning and keep it clean.
 
when I bought my SR22, the staff at the store advised me to only shoot copper plated ammo. Maybe you've had a build up of lead in the barrel and the over-pressure of the build up led to the case failure.
Just offering some advice.

and yes, the safety is backwards on the SR22. That's why I only shoot it when hanging upside down.
 
The most probably explanation, as has been stated before, is that it was an out of battery incident. What happened was that the primer compound in the rim ignited before the mechanism was in battery. I would call this a slamfire.

Rimfire cartridges are the most susceptible form of ammunition to slamfires as the priming compound is contained in the rim of the cartridge. Priming compound varies in sensitivity, it is a mix, and the sensitivity varies within the mix, and given that your round had priming compound that was overly sensitive, once something hit it, the round ignited. Priming compound is not 100% predicable which is one good reason why centerfire cartridges were developed. If you try hard enough, like hitting your rimfire round with a hammer, you will get the thing to ignite. That priming compound is distributed inside a highly exposed rim. Centerfire cartridges are much safer in that regard, incidental contact with objects will ignite an overly sensitive centerfire primer, but because it is buried in the middle of the case, it is a lot harder to hit.

But sometimes, weird things happen:

Primer goes off in a Purse!

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sidesho...ide-woman-purse-shoots-her-leg-232052308.html

By Eric Pfeiffer, Yahoo! News | The Sideshow – Tue, Jun 12, 2012

A Pennsylvania woman was shot in the leg while shopping at a local department store on Tuesday. But in a nearly unbelievable twist, no gun was involved. Apparently, the woman was carrying the bullet in her purse, when it mysteriously exploded. "She did not have a gun in her purse or on her," Montoursville Deputy Police Chief Jason Bentley told the Williamsport Sun-Gazette. Bentley said the woman, whose name has not been released to the public, "was not aware" she was carrying two or three bullets inside her purse at the time of the accident.

The 56-year-old woman was taken to a local hospital and was eventually discharged. In fact, the woman initially declined medical treatment, only heading to the Williamsport Regional Medical Center after her son reportedly encouraged her to do so. "Something must of hit the primer of one of the bullets," Bentley said. "The bullet stayed in the purse, but its casing put a hole in the purse and caused a minor leg wound."

Bullets exploding outside of a gun are a rare occurrence but are not entirely unprecedented. In March, a bullet being used as evidence in a court case exploded in a bag and shot 20 feet across a courtroom. No one was hurt in the incident. It was surmised that the bullet exploded after its tip bounced against another bullet tip in the same evidence bag, according to the Telegram & Gazette.
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There are a surprising number of accounts of inertial bullet pullers causing primers in centerfire cartridges to ignite:

Primer goes off in inertial bullet puller on a loaded cartrige
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=794751

Primer goes off in inertial bullet puller on a loaded 22-250.
Just had a close call when using a RCBS inertial bullet puller. I have been using one of these for about 30 years with out any problem. Today I was going to pull a few bullets out of loaded 22-250 ammo to change the load for testing.
I had a 50 grain Hornady V-Max on top of 37.5 grains of Varget in Hornady brass with a CCI 200 LR Primer. I smack the RCBS inertial bullet puller several times on the concrete floor and the bullet would not budge, I finally gave it a very hard hit and the primer went the Primer went off. At first I thought I might have hit a loose primer lying on the floor but could not find any burn marks, then I noticed the primer was missing out of the cartridge but the cartridge was intact with the bullet still in it. How that that be possible. I the powder did not ignite. I thought may be the primer bounced out and I smacked it on the floor, so I pulled the bullet and dumped the powder out. Sure enough several grains of powder were singed but the powder did not ignite. The primer simply went off and with out any thing to hold the primer in, it simply pushed it self out with out enough fire going thru the flash hole to set off the powder.

I have been reloading for 47 years and loaded ten of thousands of rounds. I never would have believed this would have been possible.

Has any one else ever had a primer go off by accident?
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So, I believe the most likely explanation of what happened with your gun, is that the rim of the cartridge made incidental contact with something, the shock of that contact was enough to cause the priming compound to ignite before the breech was closed. The good thing is, you were not hurt, neither was your pistol. Just clean everything up, go shooting, and always wear eye protection. You cannot predict these things, so you might as well always protect your eyes in case you have another out of battery slamfire with a rimfire cartridge.
 
The only slamfire I have ever had was due to inserting a round in the chamber and dropping the slide on it. The gun was fully closed, the case was fully supported and could not rupture. But I was sure surprised and glad I had observed standard safety precautions and the bullet went in a safe direction.

This is not the usual Internet Definition of an Out of Battery discharge.
 
berettaprofessor said:
Friends don’t let friends buy Golden Bullets. :)
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A quick google search turns up quite a few problems with Remington Golden Bullets,
they you get a bunch of posters saying, "Oh, they're so much better now!"
a few months later, more horror stories...ad infinitum.

I've been shooting 'em on & off for over 40 years.
They suck.
You may get a good box, you may get a bad box, you never know.
I'm at the point now where I only use 'em for Single-action pistols,
just so I can spin 'em and try a new primer strike when they fail to fire.
and revolvers can take more of a beating than semi-auto's if they put in
a double-powder charge...which also happens a LOT with RGB's.

If you ARE going to use 'em in a semi-auto, take the time to empty the whole box
out, inspect EVERY bullet individually, looking for Bad Crimp, mis-shappened bullets,
incorrect case size, and anything else out of the ordinary...
I've even gone so far as to Micrometer entire bulk packs. Sad that it has been necessary.
But it ain't a bad thing to do.

Amazing that a company that can make some of the best centerfire hunting ammo
that I've run across can make such shoddy rimfire ammo. And it is most certainly
NOT limited to .22lr, their .22 Magnum has the exact same issues as well.

I use their .30-30 almost exclusively in my Marlin 336.
Never had a single issue...been thru at least a dozen boxes over the years.
Same with .45-70, great stuff.
Can't win 'em all ;)
 
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Its a blowback 22.
With a higher pressure locked breech gun,out of battery means the breech is not locked.That is the critical factor in an out of battery event.
In a modern blowback gun,firing pin protrusion is carefully controlled to not batter the chamber.Much out of battery and it won't fire.
I'm skeptical about the out of battery thing.

What I did not see mentioned is a squib load bore obstruction. As you claim you are new to shooting...

Mr OP, if you are shooting and get a click,or anything less than a full discharge,STOP! Keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction.

Don't just recock and fire another round. You may have a bullet stuck in the barrel.
And please,don't turn the gun around and look in the muzzle.You range officer will get very excited and perhaps invite you to leave. There are delayed ignition events,too.

A good plan ,if you are at a range with a range officer,

Keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction

Remove the magazine and lock the slide back.

Set the gun down at the firing point

Ask for help from the range officer.

I'm not saying you could not handle it,but its not good to alarm the range officer.
If a cleaning rod will pass muzzle to breech,the bore is clear.
 
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Mr OP, if you are shooting and get a click,or anything less than a full discharge,STOP! Keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction.
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If he gets a click on a .22 and is shooting a pistol and it's a squib, how does it eject the round and load another one? With my SR22, if I hear a click, which happens about once every magazine, I pull the trigger again because it's an FTF from the rimfire priming system and not a squib.

A squib is a pop because it sets off the primer and it is little to no recoil.

I stopped getting scared of squibs after I had my first one because after it I knew what they sounded like.

Hangfires and squibs are scarier in revolvers. Every time I get a click with my .22 wheelgun, I sit there for 15 seconds and wait until I press on.

Always pointing down range is a good idea.
 
I hear bad about Golden Bullets, but a friend gave me three boxes because they were not accurate enough in his target guns. At the plinking level they have been shooting just fine, reliable ignition and reasonable hits at 50 feet if not 50 yards. Must be an unusually good lot. Or maybe old stock before the Panic Era loss in quality.
 
According to the OP, the trigger was pulled a second time before the event occurred. That would not constitute a slam fire, at least according to the definition of slam fire that I use.

I am skeptical that this was an out of battery detonation for the same reasons that HiBC is. I am doubtful that if the pistol was sufficiently out of battery to produce a case rupture, the firing pin would not have ignited the primer. But I am not an expert and don't know the SR22 intimately.

I think with a squib, whether it resulted from only primer ignition, or a grossly under-powered powder charge, that one would hear more than just the click that one hears with a light primer strike.

I have often pulled the trigger a second time on a .22lr round that fails to ignite. I know others do as well, because I find dud 22lr rounds at the range all the time that have two or three firing pin indentations on case rim. But based on this thread, I will stop that practice.
 
I will say two things. First, you must contact ruger and send it back for examination. It's possible that the thing has a problem, and hundreds more in the same lot may also have that problem.

You also should contact Remington, it may have been a flaw in the brass.

Give these two companies a chance to see the problem and determine whether the products were at fault. If there is a problem with a production run of that pistol that causes hundreds of these incidents, eventually you will see see someone who forgot his glasses
 
Lots of good comments here. While it is possible the pistol fired out of battery, this is not likely. Especially considering the ammo that was in use. I personally swore off Remington ammo of nay kind back in the 80s. Clean your pistol well get some good ammo I tend to agree the CCI Mini Mag is a good choice and go enjoy yourself. Although I am new to the forum let me extended the warmest welcome to new a member of the shooting family
 
Anyone here ever watch the speed at which factory machines spit out .22 ammo? It could be argued that we should not be surprised when a round fails but rather when any of them work!

Jim
 
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