What gun for HD for wife?

I guess I got lucky. My girlfriend, the one I want to marry, took to shooting quickly. She's not a range freak like I am but she's definitely proficient. She even asks to go shoot every now and then just to keep in practice. It's a good thing because I have a gripe against the voluntarily helpless, hope-for-the-best, blind faith mentality.

Note: If anyone's looking for a real easy to master firearm, why does no one ever suggest a Marlin 60 .22 rifle loaded with Velocitors? There's virtually no recoil and it'll be pretty effective at in-the-same-room ranges. It's way easier to master than a handgun and it's not near as intimidating as a shotgun. The newbies I've taken shooting have all had a lot of fun with the ol' 60. The more they make a tin can dance, it seems, the more they like shooting.
 
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You want to get your wife a gun to make you feel better, wrong reason, what would make her feel better? You want to leave a loaded gun in the house with kids wrong again? In my state I am responsible/liable for what happens if my ammo and firearms are not locked up separately. Can you teach her to load and gather up the kids under stress? Home defense is a sticky situation. Two sessions at the range will not train her to deal with a home invasion, yes it can teach her to squeeze a trigger and maybe hit a piece of paper but squeezing a trigger on a warm body in that scenario has to be instinctual and that only comes with professional training not hubby taking her to the range to hit paper. Can you teach her 2 shots center mass 1 to the head? Will she learn? She doesn't want to know about guns let alone kill someone. Maybe your best bet is a well trained dog and a double barreled easy to load 12Ga. shot gun with #4 low brass hid in the bathroom put the kids in the tub and act like a momma bear. Yeah right...... your best bet is to leave the guns out of it.
 
OK you said your wife knows nothing about guns and doesn't want to. Why not get her a Tazer. The Gander Mountain near me sells them for around $300.00 I do believe. If she is anything like my wife and anyother mother in the world, she will do what she needs to do to protect her kids, and that is why I leave my 3" Judge with #6 410 shells in it for my wife. She knows how to aim and pull the trigger. Anything near where she aims will be having a bad day from then on. 5 shots and she can clear the house. The kick is a little big but when push comes to shove and an intruder gets near her kids, any good woman will do what they have to to get the job done. In the heat of it all, if you left her a S&W 500, she'll use it.
 
Get a dog!

I am totally and completely on board with the folks here that advise against getting a gun for your wife.

While my wife does not share my degree of enthusiasm for firearms as I do, she does go to the range with me. We bought a 22 pistol for her to shoot and she knows how to load it, field strip and clean it.

Even though home protection is a side benefit, we have 4 dogs. All of them have been rescued from puppy mills or shelters where they would have been put down if not adopted. We have a very large back yard and a dog door so they can come and go as they please. The door is pretty big - about 18" wide and 24" high. Someone remarked that a person could actually get through an opening that big to which I replied. "If you saw a dog door that big, would you really want to find out what was on the other side?"

If you are that concerned about home safety, invest in a trained attack dog. If you just want a good friend who will love you unconditionally, rescue a dog from a shelter.

Scott
 
My wife doesn't like the guns I've bought for her, either. So far, I've bought at least 20!;) Maybe one day she'll get one she likes, but until then I'll just have to keep on trying. :D -7-
 
I love dogs. I have had rescue/pet shelter dogs all my life. However, I feel that anyone who believes such a dog is going to be much help in a home invasion is naive at best. Even a "trained attack dog" is a step above a mall ninja against an armed home invasion. Typically (at least in this area) home invasions are accomplished by desperate, armed individuals with little fear. They operate with the element of surprise on their side and usually as a team. There first target...... your dog. My dog is a member of my family and a trusted friend, her life is valued and would be protected accordingly.

I will agree that the presence of a dog or dogs may discourage an attacker and direct them towards your neighbor. I just don't feel that a dog is going to be much help in stopping an in progress home invasion by a desperate armed team.
 
I will agree that the presence of a dog or dogs may discourage an attacker and direct them towards your neighbor. I just don't feel that a dog is going to be much help in stopping an in progress home invasion by a desperate armed team.
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The vast majority of home invasions aren't by a desperate armed team. I'd sure like to know the area where you live and see the crime stats involving your area regarding this case. Also, the number of dogs killed while attempting to guard the household would be helpful to understand your case along with documented cases of their success rate if available. I'd definitely move if it were me...

I still stand by my recommendation on getting a dog instead of a gun. It doesn't need to be an "attack" dog. Getting a dog to alerts the owner of presence of others is a major step in crime deterrence. You may think it's naive per your area, but the rest of America doesn't necessarily reflect the neighborhood you live in.
 
I just don't feel that a dog is going to be much help in stopping an in progress home invasion by a desperate armed team.
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If a desperate armed team comes into your home with the intention of blowing your head off, then you are going to end up dead!

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My wife knows nothing about guns nor does she want to.
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It would be a case of bringing her to the range once maybe twice to get familar with it...
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This whole thread is (or was) about a man wanting his wife to have a gun ready to use with NO TRAINING who doesn't even want to have a gun in the first place!

Scott
 
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The vast majority of home invasions aren't by a desperate armed team. I'd sure like to know the area where you live and see the crime stats involving your area regarding this case
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I live on Long Island in NY. Many of the home invasions here have been made by armed teams. Long Island is culturally diverse. Home prices (before the current situation) ranged from the high $200,000 to several million dollars. It is not a high crime area otherwise.

In every one of these cases the invasion was made by two or more armed men. Check the links, one invasion involved a home owner with two pit bulls, one of which was shot. One or more of these involves a team of six.


http://www.news12.com/LI/topstories/article?id=217523

http://www.news12.com/LI/topstories/article?id=217493

http://www.news12.com/LI/topstories/article?id=207869

http://www.news12.com/LI/topstories/article?id=198872

http://www.news12.com/LI/topstories/article?id=198684

http://www.news12.com/LI/topstories/article?id=198047

http://www.news12.com/LI/topstories/article?id=225952


I could go on and on and on. If you care to search more on your own, NEWS12.COM just use the search and key words home invasion.
 
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I could go on and on and on. If you care to search more on your own, NEWS12.COM just use the search and key words home invasion.
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Tried your links. Doesn't work if you're not a subscriber and I'm not willing to shell the cash to read what should be free.
 
You're going to need a lot more than a handgun in the night stand to defend yourself against that. I just hope its worth living on Long Island!

But that still doesn't address the original question of what to do about the man's wife who doesn't want to have a gun but who's husband thinks she needs one but is unwilling to train her how to use it.

Scott
 
The post that started this thread made it clear that his wife had no interest in learning anything. That's too bad; it's a shame; it breaks my heart to hear ... but it is what it is.

A firearm is nothing but a dangerous nuisance to someone who has no interest in learning anything about it.

pax
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She's right.


Get her a big, mean, ugly dog.
 
BASED on what experience?? it's pretty?? A novice knows nothing about picking a firearm.
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I think most women might maybe posesses judgemental capabilities beyond "oh thats pretty!"

Pax said if she is willing to learn she will choose her own firearm. That means renting, handling, researching, ect. I think you take the issue of self defense a little lightly
 
Tried your links. Doesn't work if you're not a subscriber and I'm not willing to shell the cash to read what should be free.
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I have no interest in hijacking this thread, nor do I want to consume the band with by pasting each article individually here. I guess because my IP owns the News 12 website I have access without signing on. If you are interested PM me with your email address and I will copy and paste each article and send it to you.
 
Remember one thing. She will have to live with shooting a person. Can she deal with it.
My wife shoots for sport with me but will not use a gun for self defense because she could not live with shooting a person.
 
well a 22 lr is a small calliber for home defense id get her a 4inch smith 357 mag and haver her shoot 38 special p amo in it my dad has one and u can barely feel it. his is a 686p with a 4 inch barrel so not all that heavy but heavy enough where the wife can shoot it safely and accuratley. I trained my wife on my ruger p89 9mm.
 
Most women have a hard time when it comes to guns and self defense but if she is like my wife god help the person that puts her kids in danger.
 
This whole thread is (or was) about a man wanting his wife to have a gun ready to use with NO TRAINING who doesn't even want to have a gun in the first place!
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Well said, Scott... and the gentleman who started the thread hasn't come back to it even once, as far as I can see, so it seems to be a bit of a pointless exercise as well as a misguided one. I hope he's read enough here to have thought better of this project... :(
 
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