What does Michael Moore really think about America?

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http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,124168,00.html

Filmmaker Michael Moore (search) likes to portray himself as a common man, his uncommon riches notwithstanding. But he doesn’t stand up for the collective wisdom of his fellow Americans when speaking in front of foreigners.

Mr. Moore told a Toronto audience last week: "Why would you want to be like us?" The American ethic, he said, is "every man for himself. Me me me me me."

When he was in England recently, Mr. Moore expanded on his unique brand of populism, saying of Americans, "They are possibly the dumbest people on the planet... in thrall to conniving, thieving smug [expletive]. We Americans suffer from an enforced ignorance. We don't know about anything that's happening outside our country. Our stupidity is embarrassing."

In an open letter to the German people in Die Zeit, Moore asked, ''Should such an ignorant people lead the world?"

While Europeans love this stuff, one might think its popular appeal would wane a bit back home. And yet, as David Brooks of The New York Times points out, this is the man for whom a Senate vote was delayed because so many members wanted to see his movie.
 
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Michael Moore has made a movie and donated it to the Democratic Socialest Party of America [Democratic Party] to try and unelect Bush in November.
Also, he is registered to vote in Michigan and New York. I think both are illegal.
He must not think much of America, as our founding fathers established it. He should move to France.
 
I'm with Quartis on this one. Asking what he really thinks presupposes that he CAN think...and I've not seen evidence of that phenomenon taking place in his vicinity.
 
Mentioning Michael Moore makes me want to go to the shooting range. Anyone know where a guy can find some Michael Moore siloughettes instead of the classic Dillinger ones?
 
Really?

I think you guys are being unfair to Mr. Moore. I think he has shown himself to be a fair, if passionate defender of our freedoms. I don't think anyone has ever shown that there are any actual flaws in his films. He angers people because they know he is probably right.

It is a sad day when somebody gets attacked just for saying what they think. I think you guys should give Mr. Moore the benefit of the doubt. And, he really makes a brilliant movie.

After seeing F/911, I know who I will be voting for--you can't deny the power of that film.
 
I think you guys are being unfair to Mr. Moore. I think he has shown himself to be a fair, if passionate defender of our freedoms. I don't think anyone has ever shown that there are any actual flaws in his films. He angers people because they know he is probably right.
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Sorry, it took me a second. At first I thought you were being serious and really ignoring the dozens if not hundreds of half-truths, "creative editing", manipulations and outright lies put forth in his earlier films. For a moment, I thought you had really refused to see that his propaganda was without factual basis and relied entirely on people not checking up on his outrageous claims. I've only seen Bowling For Columbine myself, but even with my limited knowledge and basic research skills, I was able to find and verify an amazing amount of fiction presented as fact. Then I read a more complete analysis by David Hardy and realized I'd missed even more.

*snort* No actual flaws in his earlier movies indeed. "Fair" advocate of freedom - HA! You got me good, Greg.
 
I am quite sure you are joking, Mr. Bell. There are any number of flaws in all of his films. They are flaws not on fact, but of context. He removes quotes and pictures from their original context and strings them together to make them appear to make a different point than they would make if left in their natural state. This is precisely what propagandists do, and he is one of the best.

For example, I could quote Woodrow Wilson as saying:
"Liberty has...come from the government. Liberty has always come...from...government. The history of liberty is the history of...governmental power..."

Sounds like he is championing Big Government, yes? Not when you look at the full quote:
"Liberty has never come from the government. Liberty has always come from the subjects of government. The history of liberty is the history of resistance. The history of liberty is a history of the limitation of governmental power, not the increase of it."

This is exactly what Michael Moore does. To illustrate how he works, I would suggest you take a look at the excellent analysis of Bowling for Columbine by David T. Hardy:

Bowling for Columbine

As for any question about Michael Moore's personal views, I can only offer a personal anecdote:
From 1992 to 1994, I lived and worked in the Thumb area of Michigan. One day during that time I was at a shopping mall in the nearest big city, Flint. As you may know, Flint is Moore's hometown, and the setting/focal point of his first success, Roger and Me. A local radio station was doing a simulcast from the mall, and as I approached the platform from which they were broadcasting, I saw that the interview was with Michael Moore. I stood and listened for several minutes. In this time Mr. Moore was on such a tirade against everything inherently American, that the interviewer finally asked him what his political orientation was. At that point Michael Moore came right out and admitted to being a communist. I stayed for a few more minutes to see if we would qualify that statement. He didn't. He only lamented that this country would probably never embrace communism. That is what I know of him. That is what I heard, in person, Michael Moore, himself, say. I remember this when ever hear him speak. I know what drives him. I know what the goal of his propaganda is. Because he told me. And it scares me that people are viewing him as a legitimate source of information.
 
Guys,

Your on to me! I was joking. I just got finished arguing at another forum with a bunch of liberal lemmings about Mr. Moore's little piece of left wing masturbation material. Moore is a throw back to Marxist propagandists of the early 1900s. I think the comparison to Riefenstahl is unfair, since she actually had incredible genius as a filmmaker (alas, in the service of pure evil). Mr. Moore is, by comparison, a lazy hack (in the service of pure evil).


Welcome me back to TFL! I really missed it! :)
 
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Welcome back to TFL! We really missed you! :D



There, feel better? ;)



Say, how did you manage to type that drivel without :barf: , anyway?
 
I think the comparison to Riefenstahl is unfair, since she actually had incredible genius as a filmmaker (alas, in the service of pure evil).
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Hence "the inimitable".

Ya had me going there for a minute! :p
 
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