David Armstrong
Moderator
Again, I don't think it matters. 223, 308, 303, 30-06, 30 carbine, 30/30, .22LR. This idea that the caliber is going to make much, if any, difference in the outcome of most situations is just silly.
This idea that the caliber is going to make much, if any, difference in the outcome of most situations is just silly.
Micrgunner said:I've owned one .308 military platform rifle, a surplus L1A1 SLR from CAI. That sucker hung up as much as it fired and it was tough to clear
O wait, no you were talking about Afghanistan, not Montana. You're right. A poodle shooter is all anybody needs
Must be lots of terrorists, looters and gangbangers out to get us in them there hills of Montanny. Aliens too.For me its riots, looters, and gang trouble.
This idea that the caliber is going to make much, if any, difference in the outcome of most situations is just silly.
I don't think the need for super fast followups is as great as penetration of each round. Especially in the urban environment which I live.
My 'fighting rifle needs' have been filled quite handily by a 94 Winchester and a coat pocket full of WW 150 Power-Points or Silvertips. Of course we were just after bank robbers, killers etc. so it probably isn't relevant to the current thinking.
As happens so often, if you would spend just a little time and money getting some training from professionals in the field you'd realize how silly so much of what you worry about really is. You keep trying to find a hardware solution to what is a software problem.Remember David I'm simply trying to select in advance a weapon/caliber combination that provides me the attributes that best serve my expected purpose.
With the 10/22 I would select different tactics/responses. The AR is quite capable of reaching the BG behind the vehicle or fence. Your .308 might or might not reach behind the dumpster. The caliber doesn't determine your success.Take your 10/22 or AR in 223 and try to reach the BG's shooting from behind a vehicle or a block fence or even a dumpster
Sigh. Please let me make my own claims regarding my abilities. For you to continually make things up gets old.Yeah I know you are so good that you'll hit them in the head when they pop out to fire right.
Sounds to me like you are planning on wasting a lot of ammo.if I had a rifle chambered in a caliber that could penetrate alot of cover I could increase the size of my target and thus my chances for survival.
Sigh. Playing "what if" on the internet, trying to get some support for your questionable decision-making, gives no advantage small or large. You want something that will increase your chances a whole lot--get some tactical training behind you. Then you'll understand why these "small advantages' aren't advantages at all.When you have done just about everything you can to ensure your survival....even the small advantages could be huge.
Well said. Few situations that can't be handled with a '94 and a man that knows how to use it.My 'fighting rifle needs' have been filled quite handily by a 94 Winchester and a coat pocket full of WW 150 Power-Points or Silvertips. Of course we were just after bank robbers, killers etc. so it probably isn't relevant to the current thinking.
Must be lots of terrorists, looters and gangbangers out to get us in them there hills of Montanny. Aliens too.For me its riots, looters, and gang trouble.
Creature I saw the Box o Truth against a vehicle. The 308 passed through the vehicle and the 223 dented the other side.