What about the 458 Mag or 35 Whelen for Home Defense?
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Johnny Guest
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Baby? OOOOPPS!
Wellllllll----
Look who's had a "senior moment."
Glamdring, I stand corrected. Thanks for pointing that out to me. BABY was the big bolt gun. Maybe I was thinking about the feeling that came when the sear released, or something.
Now that you've blown away the cobwebs for me, I recall the conversation about the Thumper concept-- Col Cooper and C. Taylor were talking about basing a .44 AutoMag carbine on the H&K MP-5 platform. I kinda kept watching for it in the ensuing years but nothing ever came of it. Did it? I'm so bumfuzzled now that I guess I could have missed a firearm introduction or two.
Actually, I was kinda taken with the idea ot the H&K SMG chambered for the 10 mm auto. Dunno what for--I just thought it would be fun. Far more power than the 9 x 19 mm ctg, and shooting far flatter than the .45 ACP. Not that anything will ever win my heart away from the old Thompson, in that category.
Again-- embarrassed as I am at my error, thanks for the correction.
Johnny
Wellllllll----
Look who's had a "senior moment."
Glamdring, I stand corrected. Thanks for pointing that out to me. BABY was the big bolt gun. Maybe I was thinking about the feeling that came when the sear released, or something.
Now that you've blown away the cobwebs for me, I recall the conversation about the Thumper concept-- Col Cooper and C. Taylor were talking about basing a .44 AutoMag carbine on the H&K MP-5 platform. I kinda kept watching for it in the ensuing years but nothing ever came of it. Did it? I'm so bumfuzzled now that I guess I could have missed a firearm introduction or two.
Actually, I was kinda taken with the idea ot the H&K SMG chambered for the 10 mm auto. Dunno what for--I just thought it would be fun. Far more power than the 9 x 19 mm ctg, and shooting far flatter than the .45 ACP. Not that anything will ever win my heart away from the old Thompson, in that category.
Again-- embarrassed as I am at my error, thanks for the correction.
Johnny
Byron Quick
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Well, having been home for over two hours in 1976 before I realized I had come home on a burglar...and that I was between him and the exits...and that he was between me and my firearms 
(This was when I was young and dumb and did not carry religiously) I have what some consider radical and extreme views on the subject. I wish it was legal to post a large and visible sign reading: PREMISES PROTECTED BY CLAYMORE MINES SECURITY SYSTEM... and have grated drains installed below the windows and by the doors to flush away the remains. I must admit that that I have considered building heavy backstops in the field of fire between the entrances to my home and the neighbors. If there's more than one coming in and they bunch up in line, I find the concept of getting several with one shot satisfying. I also believe that any associates outside of the line of fire unwounded will find viewing the results of large caliber fire more psychologically intimidating. On the other hand, on the warm spring day when I suddenly had two fierce pirates having a lovers quarrel in my living room with blood droplets spattering around- they rapidly agreed to vacate my premises when confronted with nothing more potent than a FN HighPower. Both gentlemen died from AIDS a couple of years later according to reports I heard. I firmly believe that when you are defending your home that there is a valid place for overkill and "sturm und drang." (if I haven't totally mangled that). If I have to defend my home, I'm not simply defending against that invasion, I'm sending a message to the psyche of the next so inclined individual(s). But then I live in east central Georgia-many of you most likely live in areas where the sanctity of the home is not as highly regarded by district attorneys. And, of course, that must be factored into your decision.
[Edited by Spartacus on 03-13-2001 at 04:43 PM]
(This was when I was young and dumb and did not carry religiously) I have what some consider radical and extreme views on the subject. I wish it was legal to post a large and visible sign reading: PREMISES PROTECTED BY CLAYMORE MINES SECURITY SYSTEM... and have grated drains installed below the windows and by the doors to flush away the remains. I must admit that that I have considered building heavy backstops in the field of fire between the entrances to my home and the neighbors. If there's more than one coming in and they bunch up in line, I find the concept of getting several with one shot satisfying. I also believe that any associates outside of the line of fire unwounded will find viewing the results of large caliber fire more psychologically intimidating. On the other hand, on the warm spring day when I suddenly had two fierce pirates having a lovers quarrel in my living room with blood droplets spattering around- they rapidly agreed to vacate my premises when confronted with nothing more potent than a FN HighPower. Both gentlemen died from AIDS a couple of years later according to reports I heard. I firmly believe that when you are defending your home that there is a valid place for overkill and "sturm und drang." (if I haven't totally mangled that). If I have to defend my home, I'm not simply defending against that invasion, I'm sending a message to the psyche of the next so inclined individual(s). But then I live in east central Georgia-many of you most likely live in areas where the sanctity of the home is not as highly regarded by district attorneys. And, of course, that must be factored into your decision.[Edited by Spartacus on 03-13-2001 at 04:43 PM]
Byron Quick
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I would prefer to say:"What a pity, another blossoming criminal career cut short by draconian homeowners."
Lets be ralistic gentlemen. How many home defense situations require a shot of more then 20 feet, most will be at less then 10 feet. At those ranges shotguns must be aimed(actually at any range)as precisely as a rifle or a pistol as the shot hasn't had distance to spread. More so for a slug. Rifles and shot guns have more power and potentially more put-down ability than a pistol but do you really need it at pistol ranges. Now if you are talking about holding off mobs of people on your front lawn then you need an AK or AR. How many situations are there were it is justifiable to shoot unless you are in immenent(sp)danger. Most of us don't live in Texas where you can shoot somebody in the back when they are stealing your TV at night. Here in PA we have to wait until they come back in and try to steal the VCR and then you have to shoot them in the front.
The point of this ramble is that for most home situations the handgun has it over the long gun because of its ease of use and less potential for overpenetration. As far as useing your pistol to fight your way to your rifle, that makes sense in a military or outdoors situation. Distance equals safety, but that doesn't apply indoors.
The point of this ramble is that for most home situations the handgun has it over the long gun because of its ease of use and less potential for overpenetration. As far as useing your pistol to fight your way to your rifle, that makes sense in a military or outdoors situation. Distance equals safety, but that doesn't apply indoors.
Byron Quick
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Well, the legislature here in Georgia has in front of it what the bill's sponsor calls the "Make My Day" bill. Basically, the bill reads that if they break into your house and you get the drop on them-kill them. I don't think it passed this session. Maybe next year. South Carolina has already passed such a bill this session. Outside of the Atlanta city limits and a few of its suburbs, the chance of actually being prosecuted for doing so approaches zero. Prosecutors don't like burglars and home invaders down here.