Went to my CCW Class this past weekend.
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No, my dad's M1911 was stolen the Saturday before Christmas, 1986
.I'll be using either my S&W Model 329PD or Glock 23.
According to the Utah CWP class I took this last Sunday, people from outside the country can get a Utah permit with their green card - they went over it pretty fast and I could care less, so didn't listen all that well to that part of the class.
ETA: you can download the Utah CWP here: http://publicsafety.utah.gov/bci/concealedfirearms.html The requirements for non-citizens is on the back page.
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My .02
In my experience and observations some sort of training and or "mentoring" is invaluable to those who have had no previous reliable training or understanding of firearms.
Over the years I have taken lots of folks and tried to give them their initial experience in a safe fashion so that they would a least have the chance to learn in a safe environment and with a weapon that would not intimidate them. Give them a chance to experience how to properly shoot, control the weapon safely and they would have a chance to gain an understanding of what types of weapons there are so if they decide its for them they can make a educated decision. Not unlike learning to ride a motorcycle, taking flying or scuba lessons.
Everyone has rights but knowledge is power.
In my experience and observations some sort of training and or "mentoring" is invaluable to those who have had no previous reliable training or understanding of firearms.
Over the years I have taken lots of folks and tried to give them their initial experience in a safe fashion so that they would a least have the chance to learn in a safe environment and with a weapon that would not intimidate them. Give them a chance to experience how to properly shoot, control the weapon safely and they would have a chance to gain an understanding of what types of weapons there are so if they decide its for them they can make a educated decision. Not unlike learning to ride a motorcycle, taking flying or scuba lessons.
Everyone has rights but knowledge is power.
Aguila Blanca
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What you feel is irrelevent. The state decides what it considers a minimum level of handgun safety instruction before issuing a license/permit, and that's what you get in the CCW class.berreez said:
If you don't think that provides adequate safety, lobby the state to require additional training before issuing permits. That'll make you REALLY popular.
Frankly, the entire notion of requiring any permit or training before people can carry is contrary to the clear language of the 2nd Amendment.
Where does the word "qualified" appear in the 2nd Amendment?berreez said:
You have a right to "feel" uncomfortable, but your feelings should not trump anyone's Constitutional right to carry a firearm.
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Aguila Blanca
I agree any permit or training should NOT be required.
But common sense dictates that some form of training whether it is free or costs should be taken by people that are first time gun owners for their safety and the safety of others but NOT ordered by the state or federal government.
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I agree any permit or training should NOT be required.
But common sense dictates that some form of training whether it is free or costs should be taken by people that are first time gun owners for their safety and the safety of others but NOT ordered by the state or federal government.
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