I received my free sample today and noticed it is a little more viscous than break free and that’s a plus. Seems to clean as good as break free but really don’t have anything to clean right now. I will take it to work tomorrow and do some corrosion testing. I would have to say as of right now it seems worth switching to.
Weapon Shield Update fron Iraq
- Thread starter gcfennell
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old FP-10
Hey guys!
Thank you all very much for the kind words on the "Weapon Shield". Just to clarify a point that "SEED" responded to in my stead (thank you, sir
)...FP-10 was my invention, indeed and was an outstanding product when I was with my old company that I started, MPC, prior to 2004, but since then have had nothing to do with them, FP-10, or Shooters Choice FP-10 (which was an extended marketing effort at the time).
Over the last 4 years, I have intermittently bought several bottles of FP-10 to test/analyze due to the fact that many people have complained to me about the FP-10 having issues since I left MPC. Some of them involve 1) very light or varying viscosities, 2) inadequate corrosion protection, 3) inadequate wear protection or lubricity, and a few other minor complaints. Included in the batch of FP-10 bottles that I acquired were a few that people sent me from the field along with the complaints. What I found out was what I had expected...a seemingly lack of consistency or "quality control" as the industry would define it.
During the years that I was with MPC, the very company that I and my father founded, I ran strict oversight and control over every batch/lot of FP-10, as well as ALL of my products that were manufactured there, providing strict FTIR (Fourier Transmission Infra Red) analysis for each and every one. Nothing got out to the marketplace unless it met the rigid quality standards that I defined and of which most of you who have used FP-10, are used to. However, these products that I tested were all over the place when it came to consistency and continuity.
There are several things you get when you use Weapon Shield in place of FP-10; 1) my strict consistency, continuity, and quality control, 2) a markedly improved product in all three categories of lubrication, corrosion protection, and solvent-free cleaning, and 3) peace of mind, knowing that if you have a complaint or problem, it will be handled personally by me or a VERY competent member of our team who will bend over backwards to make our service and your experience with us just like my product...#1 in the world. This I promise you and guarantee. In all the years running, I think I have established this reputation with the industry and you folks, especially. For that, and your continued support, I thank you all from the heart. You guys (and gals) all rock!
Best regards as always,
George
Hey guys!
Thank you all very much for the kind words on the "Weapon Shield". Just to clarify a point that "SEED" responded to in my stead (thank you, sir
)...FP-10 was my invention, indeed and was an outstanding product when I was with my old company that I started, MPC, prior to 2004, but since then have had nothing to do with them, FP-10, or Shooters Choice FP-10 (which was an extended marketing effort at the time).Over the last 4 years, I have intermittently bought several bottles of FP-10 to test/analyze due to the fact that many people have complained to me about the FP-10 having issues since I left MPC. Some of them involve 1) very light or varying viscosities, 2) inadequate corrosion protection, 3) inadequate wear protection or lubricity, and a few other minor complaints. Included in the batch of FP-10 bottles that I acquired were a few that people sent me from the field along with the complaints. What I found out was what I had expected...a seemingly lack of consistency or "quality control" as the industry would define it.
During the years that I was with MPC, the very company that I and my father founded, I ran strict oversight and control over every batch/lot of FP-10, as well as ALL of my products that were manufactured there, providing strict FTIR (Fourier Transmission Infra Red) analysis for each and every one. Nothing got out to the marketplace unless it met the rigid quality standards that I defined and of which most of you who have used FP-10, are used to. However, these products that I tested were all over the place when it came to consistency and continuity.
There are several things you get when you use Weapon Shield in place of FP-10; 1) my strict consistency, continuity, and quality control, 2) a markedly improved product in all three categories of lubrication, corrosion protection, and solvent-free cleaning, and 3) peace of mind, knowing that if you have a complaint or problem, it will be handled personally by me or a VERY competent member of our team who will bend over backwards to make our service and your experience with us just like my product...#1 in the world. This I promise you and guarantee. In all the years running, I think I have established this reputation with the industry and you folks, especially. For that, and your continued support, I thank you all from the heart. You guys (and gals) all rock!
Best regards as always,
George
Good to see you George. Glad to hear business is good but it's no surprise.
I've used Weapon Shield exclusively since that first sample offering and all of my firearms never ran so smooth and trouble free. The corrosion protection is absulutely amazing. The friends I've given some agree there's nothing better and are now converts.
I'll soon be ordering another 16oz. and 4 oz. I prefer using it from the 4oz. bottle and using the larger one to refill from. Great product.
Keep up the good work.
I've used Weapon Shield exclusively since that first sample offering and all of my firearms never ran so smooth and trouble free. The corrosion protection is absulutely amazing. The friends I've given some agree there's nothing better and are now converts.
I'll soon be ordering another 16oz. and 4 oz. I prefer using it from the 4oz. bottle and using the larger one to refill from. Great product.
Keep up the good work.
Has anyone here used Gunzilla? Currently that's the CLP I use and it's got the same hype as WS only on another forum. I'm wondering if someone's used both so I can get a clue of which CLP is better. In the end I'll do my own testing, but if there's overwhelming proof that WS is better than I won't have to bother with the free sample and just order a 16oz bottle.
Hey, that's probably MY hype you are talking about!
I use both Weapon Sheld and Gunzilla and have for a few years now.
Mostly I use Weapon Shield because it rocks for lube and protect and it pretty decent at the clean part.
But for some applications I've found that Gunzilla can be pretty amazing, especially for cleaning smoothbore barrels.
The other trick I've found is that Gunzilla seems to do something about removing surface patina rust. I have a seriously rust-promoting body chemistry so when surface patina rust shows up I wipe guns and tools down with Gunzilla until the patches aren't "rusty" any more and then coat with WeaponShield for protection and I can go for a long time before any corrosion starts to show up again.
Well, although I like learning about new stuff, I'm also a fan of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".
So if you are happy with Gunzilla then you'll probably be fine just sticking with it. I am, however, of the opinion that Weaponshield is superior enough as a lubricant that I do use it alongside Gunzilla.
In short my cleaning tools consist of
Foaming bore cleaner (for copper fouling if needed).
Gunzilla for general cleanup and powder fouling.
Weaponshield for lube and corrosion protection.
A handy tip.
Buy a bunch of empty Needle Oilers from Brownells, label them, and use them to dispense Gunzilla and Weaponshield. You'll get lube precisely where you want it and cut waste spills to nothing.
I wonder if it's okay to resurrect this thread...I guess I'll find out.
At some point, didn't FP-10 contain Teflon?
Does or doesn't Weaponshield use nano-technology?
Has anyone tried Crusader Weaponry's Slip Stream?
I believe Slip Stream contains nano-particles. I've tried it and immediately noticed that things more "slippy" than before. I do know that the nano-particles or whatever settle and the bottle has to be shaken in order to disperse them into the oil. I would think it would be better if they stay suspended in the oil, but I don't know if it makes a difference.
I was also wondering if anyone has had any bad experiences with any of these oils?
Thanks,
paul
At some point, didn't FP-10 contain Teflon?
Does or doesn't Weaponshield use nano-technology?
Has anyone tried Crusader Weaponry's Slip Stream?
I believe Slip Stream contains nano-particles. I've tried it and immediately noticed that things more "slippy" than before. I do know that the nano-particles or whatever settle and the bottle has to be shaken in order to disperse them into the oil. I would think it would be better if they stay suspended in the oil, but I don't know if it makes a difference.
I was also wondering if anyone has had any bad experiences with any of these oils?
Thanks,
paul
I've been using WS for arnd 2-3yrs on my 1911s and it is very humid here in the PHILIPPINES. So far no signs of rust on my babies.As a lube,the action on my pistols has been smooooth. Great cleaner as well,makes cleaning less of a chore.I also use WS on my AR and SG with similar results. Thanks GEORGE for an EXCELLENT product,i always endorse WS to my fellow shooters here in PI.
BEST,
Jogon
BEST,
Jogon