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pitz96

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Remember a few months ago when I suggested water shortages would be a problem and everyone pooh-poohed that idea? Well, it seems Atlanta Georgia is starting to have some real concerns about diminishing water supplies.

Since no one can control the weather, anyone have ideas on what can be done now and in the near future to either conserve or supplement water in this country? It isn't only Georgia that is seeing shortages: areas in the West with huge increases in population like Las Vegas are also facing water issues.

I don't know what the solution is, but using huge amounts of ground water to grow corn for energy and then more water to turn it into ethanol seems like a bad idea.
 
no huh?

if you really think there is no way to change the weather, do a search on HAARP and weather control. if you have any bodys in teh military who have TOP SECRET clearence they should be able totell you a little about it too.
 
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Read an article in the NY Times for October 22, said the water level on the Great Lakes is below where it should be, causing problems for all the shippers.
Australia is in its fourth or fifth year of a major drought. In 1943 Europe suffered its worst drought in 90 years, in addition to affecting the harvest the
water levels on the Danube fell so low that the barges bringing crude petroleum form Romania to the Reich could carry only 30-40% of capacity, thus at a critical juncture in the War the Reich was starved of fuel, especially
aviation fuel. This allowed the Allies to start to gain the upper hand in the air war. In Central Asia the Aral Sea has ben shrinking since the 1960s thanks to the Soviets diverting the rivers that feed it.
 
water shortages ~ climate change + usage amounts...food for thought.



Curiosity yields evolution...satiety yields extinction.
 
More water vapor in the air causing more heat to be held in the atmosphere causing more water to evaporate? Where have I heard that before? Oh yeah, it's all a myth, no global warming, no changes in the atmosphere and no water shortages. Nothing to see here citizens, buy that new SUV and pay taxes to fight a war to keep cheap oil flowing and everything will be alright.

On a more positive note, there does not seem to be a water shortage in my basement.
 
Too many people move to Atlanta + draw too much water from a limited lake + Fed "green" asinine policies mandate billions of gallons must flow downstream to protect an endangered mussel (?) = ALGORE has another misleading example to point to sell more $190K slideshow appearances, buys a bigger jet, gains more weight, gets even more smug

"Global Warming" is the best Ponzi scheme ever, and that's it. Wanna buy some carbon credits?

Yes, the climate changes. IT ALWAYS HAS. IT ALWAYS WILL. We've had dry spells, hot periods, and mini ice ages! People skated on the Thames in summer in the 1600's!

It's called A PLANET, and it's very large, and we have nothing to do with how it operates!

Man, even British schools wised up and called ALGORE's film political propaganda with misleading claims that can't be shown in schools. When are we going to wise up here?
 
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The current one isn't the first drought to hit the U.S.
 
Pst, johnbt, you can't point that out to Green Religion sorts and expect any acceptance. You see, that photo of the Dust Bowl drought is a fact, and would require logical, rational reasoning. Those of the Prophet ALGORE run on pure emotion. Not fact.

Sorta like anti-gun types...
 
Weather patterns are cyclical and droughts are part of the cycles. Man has little to do with it and no control over it. Conservation and wise use of the available water is about the only thing that can be done. That includes stopping the use of water for golf courses, lawns, etc. during extreme dry cycles - something many do not want to do. The drought will 'let up' when 'it wants to'.

Water use will become more and more of a problem as the have nots - like Las Vegas and Southern California - try to take water from those areas of the country that they feel have more than enough water to satisfy their needs too.
 
"the NY Times for October 22, said the water level on the Great Lakes is below where it should be..."

That's the NY Times for you. John


From UW.edu regarding the Great Lakes.

"Do high and low lake levels come in cycles?

Yes, but not in regular or predictable ones. Since the high water levels in the 1950s, there have been two high-water peaks during1973-74 and 1985-86. And, the upper Great Lakes appear to be rising to a third peak this year. In that same nearly half-century, there has been only one major below-average dip in water levels, from 1963 to 1965."


"What difference can a change of 1 or 2 feet make?

A change of 1 foot is a normal seasonal range from peak summer levels to the low winter levels. Occasional changes in water levels — up to six or seven times the seasonal variations — have always been part of the natural cycle for coastal wetlands and lakeshores."
 
a front moved in Sunday night which has caused minor flooding in the Atlanta area, and welcome relief in Western N.C. from an extended severe drought (many wells/spings failed) but it would require an extended rainy spell (3-4 or more days) to stabilize water table.
 
"More water vapor in the air causing more heat to be held in the atmosphere causing more water to evaporate?"

More water vapor in the air causes more clouds to form, that increases the amount of energy reflected back into space, decreasing hte heat input to evaporate more water.

Do a search on 'albedo'.

If the system worked as you have posited it would be unstable.

After a few million years I think we know the system is pretty darn stable but still has variation.

While you are looking, review the 'Maunder minimum' and the little ice age.
Climatologists have yet to explain how sunspot cycles have a major impact on earth's weather.
 
We know it is stable within certain limits, the problem is when we exceed those limits. Clouds don't block as much radiation as they block heat after some unknown and unknowable point. A temperature change of a very small amount might change the direction of the gulf stream and england becomes siberia. Hard to predict, impossible to know for sure.

The only thing we don know for sure is that water and energy are limited. We ought not be wasting either.

Having said all that I have central air and a full sized SUV, but I don't have to commute to work so don't waste too much energy because of low milage.
 
well yall just come on over here to west TN, It's rained for 3 days straight now with no end til the weekend. Lord knows we needed the rain but kinda thinkin of heading to Lowes and lookin for a guy named noah buying lumber :)
 
We need to invest big time $$$$ into Desalination plants on the Pacific. That is the only answer for places like CA and the western states like AZ.

For areas in the east like Atlanta they need to build larger newer reservoirs to store more water longer. They also need to act faster in times of drought so that they can buy water from other localities before it hits a crisis level.
 
People could also do their part to stop wasting it. Turn the faucet off when you're brushing your teeth, don't let the shower run for ten minutes before you jump in, don't run the dishwasher or washing machine until it's full, don't leave the hose running when you wash your car, don't overwater your lawn, etc.
 
Commercial users are much bigger wasters than the average household.

Restaurants, hotels, golf courses, car washes, farms etc....

Yes everyone should do their part but that is not where the high waste really lies.
 
I agree, businesses should do their part as well. But no business will conserve water of its own accord if its own employees don't care about water conservation.

Protecting the environment always starts at home. :D
 
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