Walther P22 v. SIG MOS-22 V M&P 22

Which of the three pistols would you prefer?

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The ruger sr22 is a good one as well.
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I'd put it head and shoulders above any of the other choices. The Mosquito (which I also think is an Umarex design) is very picky about ammunition. So is the Walther. I've also seen slide breakage on the Walthers.

The M&P-22 seems solid, but that's based on limited feedback. I've had a great deal of feedback on the SR-22, and it seems to be the best .22 in that class.
 
I chose the M&P 22 because it came in a full size. I bought it solely for teaching new shooters so that the transition to another full size (heck even my G19) would be more familiar. I personally don't like how small the SR22 and Sig Mosquito are.

Shot to younger folks this week and we had three failures to eject in a row. Other than that, it ran flawlessly.

I originally would teach new shooters on a Ruger MkI. GREAT gun, but very confusing for someone unfamiliar when you try to transition to a modern semi-auto.

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I had no idea the M&P 22 was from Umarex, that's kind of disappointing as I was planning on making the M&P 22c my next rimfire purchase. I guess I'll just have to wait and see how they work out. My aversion to guns made by Umarex comes from my experience with the P22.

It started off great and between the 1000-2000 round count it really started having issues. The slide and frame were full of gouges and the barrell began penning. I called S&W, who as usual were polite and happy to send me a new pistol. On my initial phone call with S&W, I spoke with a tech who told me that the P22 was good for about 3000 rounds. Once I received the new pistol, I promptly traded it away. I will say that when it was working, it was a great little pistol. Accurate as all get out and reliable with any ammo. I was purchased for my little brother to use at the range. At the time, he was 10 years old and given its manual of arms and function, he was able to really get the basics of a standard pistol down.

I know there are plenty of people out there with well over 3000 rounds through their P22 and have had no issues, which I think is great. However, my experience was the opposite and the conversation with the tech didn't bode my confidence either. I guess I'll have to look at the SR22, which seems to be the best made out of all of them.
 
I originally would teach new shooters on a Ruger MkI. GREAT gun, but very confusing for someone unfamiliar when you try to transition to a modern semi-auto.
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LOL I agree. Every time I take down my Mark1 for full cleaning I have to look up You Tube video on how to do it - fun times.

I probably will get the Walther PPQ .22LR. I loved shooting it and it appears to very well made, having aluminum slide, and users report it can shoot about anything.
 
Just as an informational point, please understand that Umarex designed & manufactures the following; Walther P22, Sig Sauer Mosquito, and the Smith & Wesson M&P 22 Full-Size.
The Smith & Wesson M&P 22 COMPACT is entirely designed and manufactured by Smith & Wesson, unlike the Licenced Full Size by Umarex.
 
Another vote for the SR22. I've had mine for 2+ years. It is a well made firearm. Due to the ammo crunch and my desire to not waste all my .22 stockpile, my wife and I have only put about 1500 rounds through it. It's not picky about ammo, although I did have a couple of jams with some old thunderbolt ammo (which I regard as the worst .22 ammo made), but has been flawless with bulk pack winchester and cci ammo.
 
Yes... the M&P22c is made in USA.

That being said, the full size M&P22 is said to be better than the other Umarex designs.

Probably because Umarex does not own S&W and can not put out just anything with their name on it without approval. So I am sure S&W had to test and approve the design, and it is by most accounts built well.
 
Probably because Umarex does not own S&W and can not put out just anything with their name on it without approval. So I am sure S&W had to test and approve the design, and it is by most accounts built well.
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I'm not so sure about that. They put out crappy potmetal rimfires with Colt, HK, and Uzi rollmarks as well. Not to mention Walther, who really doesn't have a choice in the matter.
 
They put out crappy potmetal rimfires with Colt, HK, and Uzi rollmarks as well. Not to mention Walther, who really doesn't have a choice in the matter.
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What crappy potmetal rimfire with HK's name? The 416? It's not potmetal or crappy.

Kinda like the full size M&P 22.... it's aluminum slide and made very well. It's built nearly identically to the compact model... just made by a different company. Like I said, it's the only 22 I've owned that has NEVER had a failure in approaching 3,000 rounds through it.
 
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I have the Walther P22, and as stated earlier by another poster, malfunctions are quite rare, and also right on about mediocre accuracy, even though I can usually hit what I'm aiming at with it. It did get a bad rap about slides breaking due to a poorly thought out extension piece for the longer barrel. After reading up on the cause, I simply keep the shorter barrel on all the time with no worries.
I did not vote in this poll as I haven't had the chance to compare it with the other two guns in the poll.
The M&P 22 does sound interesting. :cool:
I also agree that Rugers little .22 semi auto pistol is a very hard one to beat. ;)
 
I can't really speak for any newer made P22's or Mosquitos, because admittedly I have been out of that game since about 2005. I will say this, the offerings of those two particular guns 10 years ago were dismal. We NEVER sold one that didn't go back to the factory for something. Especially the Walther, and I REALLY wanted to like it since it was a smaller version of the P99

May have been the models cutting their teeth but it sure turned me off on those two models. Enough so that I wouldn't take one for free now.
 
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May have been the models cutting their teeth but it sure turned me off on those two models. Enough so that I wouldn't take one for free now.
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And I may have just been lucky in getting a good one. :cool:
I have to ask, what was the biggest complaint about them, and how many rounds down the pipe on average before problems occurred?
Haven't shot mine in a while now, so I need to get it out again. :o
 
I have been very impressed with my M&P Compact 22 which is American made and has aluminum slide. So far not a single failure with a variety of .22LR ammo. Fits the Wife's hands very well.

 
I really tried to like the Walther P22. It just never measured up to the Walther name. I owned one for almost 4 years before dumping it. Used the money to pay for a Ruger Challenger nuf said.
 
We NEVER sold one that didn't go back to the factory for something.
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The first pistol I bought was a P22 from that era and it had no issues.
Wife got her hands on a Ruger SR-22 and said she liked it best. I guess I can't complain as it is probably the highest quality of those mentioned. It wasn't my first choice, but it is higher quality and if I get pink grips its "for the wife."
 
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Originally posted by Ballenxj

And I may have just been lucky in getting a good one.
I have to ask, what was the biggest complaint about them, and how many rounds down the pipe on average before problems occurred?
Haven't shot mine in a while now, so I need to get it out again.
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Remember this was a very long time ago so I am going from memory...

We sold about 10 or so Mosquitos and IIRC at least 4 went back after the first firing session. Mostly jamming and a few sight issues.

The Walther fared worse, seems we sold a bunch (25+) in a few months...HIGH demand. Most (at least 20) went back for everything from major parts breakage to complete failure. Could have been a bad batch but I remember having this problem for well over a year even after sales slowed to one or two units per month. After that I just couldn't trust them to be right. Especially with Ruger .22 plinkers being as plentiful as they are.
 
SgtGunner said:
Remember this was a very long time ago so I am going from memory...

We sold about 10 or so Mosquitos and IIRC at least 4 went back after the first firing session. Mostly jamming and a few sight issues.

The Walther fared worse, seems we sold a bunch (25+) in a few months...HIGH demand. Most (at least 20) went back for everything from major parts breakage to complete failure. Could have been a bad batch but I remember having this problem for well over a year even after sales slowed to one or two units per month. After that I just couldn't trust them to be right. Especially with Ruger .22 plinkers being as plentiful as they are.
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Thanks. :)
I remember when I first got mine, I tried the longer barrel once, then quickly decided that it was just as accurate, and easier to handle with the shorter standard barrel. I later learned that the heavy extension for the longer barrel was most likely responsible for the slides cracking, so I'm glad I didn't use that.
The first time out, it would jam once or twice per magazine, then it seemed to break in, running smooth as a Swiss watch thereafter.
In those days I mostly used Remington Golden bullets, but I did run a box of Stingers through it that same day, so maybe that accelerated the break in period?.
I do consider it to be a reliable weapon now after putting many rounds down the tube, but all those horror stories I have heard keep nagging me.
A possible point of interest, one of the reasons stated for jamming is that the hammer catches the bearing area on the bottom of the slide? Well before I even shot it once, I stripped, cleaned, and lubed all of those bearing surfaces. I dunno, but maybe that is why I have had good luck with it?
 
sigarm228 said:
I have been very impressed with my M&P Compact 22 which is American made and has aluminum slide. So far not a single failure with a variety of .22LR ammo.
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I have thought about getting one of these to go with my M&P9. Any more to report about it? Are the Aluminum slides tough enough to handle a lot of shooting?
PS, just so everybody is on the same page, I already know that the Ruger .22 pistols (MK1, MK2, et al) are the Gold standard for .22 pistols. ;)
 
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