Wal - Mart, "Is that for a handgun?"
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Stevie-Ray
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A few weeks ago at Buffalo Wild Wings, I ordered a 23oz draught beer. The little lovely asked for my ID. My wife said, "You gotta be kidding me, his head's big enough as it is!" She said, "Well I know he's over 21, but we're supposed to check anybody that appears 35 or younger, just to be sure." My wife glared at her as I handed her my DL, grinning. I'm 53.I sometimes get asked the question about handgun/rifle, sometimes not. I like to get the older woman that is frequently at ours. She talks guns and NEVER asks.
45_Shooter
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When asked that question in stores and buying .45 Auto I like reassuring the cashier that no, they certainly won't be going in anything as dreadful as a handgun, they'll be used in a select-fire Thompson submachine gun, which is nothing like a pistol. (I don't own one but the cashier doesn't have to know that)
I think the whole thing is convoluted. A person under 21 can legally own and posess a handgun in most locales, so why do they have to find a 21+ year old or potentially lie about what kind of gun it's going into in order to buy the ammunition to use it? I would see the point better if it weren't possible for 18-21 year olds to legally own a handgun; as it is we're sending them mixed signals.
It's kinda like allowing high school kids to buy beer as long as they swear it's for their dad.
)I think the whole thing is convoluted. A person under 21 can legally own and posess a handgun in most locales, so why do they have to find a 21+ year old or potentially lie about what kind of gun it's going into in order to buy the ammunition to use it? I would see the point better if it weren't possible for 18-21 year olds to legally own a handgun; as it is we're sending them mixed signals.
It's kinda like allowing high school kids to buy beer as long as they swear it's for their dad.
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Walmart has a tendancy to make their own laws with policies that they make up. They are asking to make sure you are not 18 and are 21, but the guy behind the counter can look at the gray hair and not have to ask, if he wanted to.
I stopped at a convenience store with my 14 year old grandson. I bought gas, 2 12 packs of diet coke, candy for all of the kids, and 4 cans of skoal. I was having trouble carrying it and my grandson grabbed the bag for me. The clerk about peed her pants because he was holding the bag that had tobacco in it. This is Colorado and stupidity reins here the last few years. I am so sick of politicians and their stupidity.
I stopped at a convenience store with my 14 year old grandson. I bought gas, 2 12 packs of diet coke, candy for all of the kids, and 4 cans of skoal. I was having trouble carrying it and my grandson grabbed the bag for me. The clerk about peed her pants because he was holding the bag that had tobacco in it. This is Colorado and stupidity reins here the last few years. I am so sick of politicians and their stupidity.
#18indycolts
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the same reason that mcdonalds employees barely know english...its a corporation....they're number 1 goal is the $, they don't care what kind of worker they get as long as they pump out the mighty $.
If you are 18 (the legal age to buy ammo) and you are buying ammo for a pistol. They won't sell to you. I had a coworker who was buying ammo in the Portland Ore store. They let her buy 9mm ammo becuase of the 9mm Uzi carbine, but not the .45acp cuz that is for a pistol. I asked the clerk if I could see the Ruger Patrol Carbine behind him. He hand the RIFLE to me, and I show him the tag. It says .45acp. So I ask why sell the gun but not the ammo. His reply was he was only doing what the cash register told him to do. He has to answer a Y/N question in the register.
If we required everyone to know what they were doing at work then the unemployment rate would be many times as great as what it is now. Almost everyone can put their own gas in their car but very few actually know the difference between the grades of gas. If you don't pay at the pump but pay the cashier he/she could not care less what the difference is. 
guns and more
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I always tell them the opposite. If I'm buying .45's (hard to do now) at WW, and they say, "Is this for a handgun?", I say ,"NO." They move on.
Steviewonder1
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Wally World Ammo ID??
A month ago I went to Wally world to get some factory ammo to continue breaking in my G19, and was not asked for ID to purchase. It did take me more than 10 minutes to find a clerk to open the ammo counter to sell it to me though. The last two boxes they had.....
A month ago I went to Wally world to get some factory ammo to continue breaking in my G19, and was not asked for ID to purchase. It did take me more than 10 minutes to find a clerk to open the ammo counter to sell it to me though. The last two boxes they had.....
number2onmyshoe
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Don't get me going about WW.
A couple months ago I was working on my truck, and had taken my wallet out of my back pocket to roll around on the creeper w/o killing my sciatic. I got up with a part in my hand, went to grab the can of carb cleaner to clean the part & lo and behold it's empty. I run out, jump in the car and head to the local auto parts to get parts & carb cleaner. I get my parts, look at the carb cleaner, holy crap, I can buy it $3 a can cheaper @ WW, so off I go. Pick up two cans of cleaner, head to the self checkout, run one through & it says, "please wait for cashier assistance". The woman walks over, looks at the screen, and says, "I need to see your DL", reach for the back pocket, ooops, it's on the bench at home. I could not get 2 cans of carb cleaner w/no ID, no way, no how, back to the auto parts store, get one can and was asked "did you forget it earlier", yup, OK, pay the money & out the door I go.
That's why I won't even bother to try buying ammo at WW........
A couple months ago I was working on my truck, and had taken my wallet out of my back pocket to roll around on the creeper w/o killing my sciatic. I got up with a part in my hand, went to grab the can of carb cleaner to clean the part & lo and behold it's empty. I run out, jump in the car and head to the local auto parts to get parts & carb cleaner. I get my parts, look at the carb cleaner, holy crap, I can buy it $3 a can cheaper @ WW, so off I go. Pick up two cans of cleaner, head to the self checkout, run one through & it says, "please wait for cashier assistance". The woman walks over, looks at the screen, and says, "I need to see your DL", reach for the back pocket, ooops, it's on the bench at home. I could not get 2 cans of carb cleaner w/no ID, no way, no how, back to the auto parts store, get one can and was asked "did you forget it earlier", yup, OK, pay the money & out the door I go.
That's why I won't even bother to try buying ammo at WW........
Lots of bad information on this thread.
Federal Law prevents an FFL holder from selling "handguns and ammunition for handguns" to persons who are under 21 years of age. Since Wal-Mart sells guns they are an FFL holder and can not sell ammunition for handguns to anyone under 21. The questions are not simply a Wal-Mart policy, they are a legal consequence of Wal-Mart's being an FFL holder/gun dealer.
It is not against the law for a person under 21 to purchase handgun ammunition unless a local or state law prevents the purchase. The federal restriction is upon the dealer, not upon the buyer.
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/faqindex.htm
Using reloaded ammunition for self-defense can present legal liabilities, some of which have been reasoned out but have not been demonstrated in a court case (and are therefore open to debate). These generally center on the idea that an overzealous prosecutor might try to make a defendant look bloodthirsty by claiming he was making "extra deadly ammunition" because factory wasn't deadly enough.
However at least one potential liability has been demonstrated in a court case and is therefore not open to debate. A defendant was charged with murder after his wife committed suicide using his reloads. The link has details. Although it was not a self-defense situation, the parallel is clear.
That said, I'm not sure it's as big an issue as it's been made out to be by some. Unless, I suppose, you're the one who happens to end up in jail...
Federal Law prevents an FFL holder from selling "handguns and ammunition for handguns" to persons who are under 21 years of age. Since Wal-Mart sells guns they are an FFL holder and can not sell ammunition for handguns to anyone under 21. The questions are not simply a Wal-Mart policy, they are a legal consequence of Wal-Mart's being an FFL holder/gun dealer.
It is not against the law for a person under 21 to purchase handgun ammunition unless a local or state law prevents the purchase. The federal restriction is upon the dealer, not upon the buyer.
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/faqindex.htm
Using reloaded ammunition for self-defense can present legal liabilities, some of which have been reasoned out but have not been demonstrated in a court case (and are therefore open to debate). These generally center on the idea that an overzealous prosecutor might try to make a defendant look bloodthirsty by claiming he was making "extra deadly ammunition" because factory wasn't deadly enough.
However at least one potential liability has been demonstrated in a court case and is therefore not open to debate. A defendant was charged with murder after his wife committed suicide using his reloads. The link has details. Although it was not a self-defense situation, the parallel is clear.
That said, I'm not sure it's as big an issue as it's been made out to be by some. Unless, I suppose, you're the one who happens to end up in jail...
Microgunner
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Now now, ya'll shouldn't get all worked up over the Wal-martians. I like to think of them as providers for my amusement. If I took them seriously I'd likely pop a gasket.
andyjs3589
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davlandrum, I tried explaining that it was 22 Long Rifle, but the clerk was not going to hear it. They just go off of what the computer tells them, plus my walmart is in a shady neighborhood so they probably have some more strict rules there.
I just go to my gun store now where they just ask for DOB, don't ask to see ID or anything. I bet I could buy pistol ammo from them and just say I was born a year earlier, but I don't enjoy breaking the law and I will just let my mom buy it for me. Then sometimes she pays for it!
I just go to my gun store now where they just ask for DOB, don't ask to see ID or anything. I bet I could buy pistol ammo from them and just say I was born a year earlier, but I don't enjoy breaking the law and I will just let my mom buy it for me. Then sometimes she pays for it!
Gun Control Act of 1968
This is not a direct quote but two of the many things this law does is. Make it illegal for anyone under the age of 18 to purchase a rifle or shotgun or the ammunition for one. It also makes it illegal for anyone under the age of 21 to purchase a Handgun or ammuniton for one.
The funny thing about this law and still is today is those of us that were in the Military then as well as now are issued these firearms but can not buy one or ammunition for it when we got home.
When I was a kid I lived in Illinois, After the above mentioned gun control law went into effect I had to take in my 22 rifle to the local store where I used to buy 22 ammunition and every time I did the sale was recorded in a large book. When I came back to the states in 1973 I no longer saw the book being used to record sales. I latter learned that part of the law was no longer in effect.
This is not a direct quote but two of the many things this law does is. Make it illegal for anyone under the age of 18 to purchase a rifle or shotgun or the ammunition for one. It also makes it illegal for anyone under the age of 21 to purchase a Handgun or ammuniton for one.
The funny thing about this law and still is today is those of us that were in the Military then as well as now are issued these firearms but can not buy one or ammunition for it when we got home.
When I was a kid I lived in Illinois, After the above mentioned gun control law went into effect I had to take in my 22 rifle to the local store where I used to buy 22 ammunition and every time I did the sale was recorded in a large book. When I came back to the states in 1973 I no longer saw the book being used to record sales. I latter learned that part of the law was no longer in effect.
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