Virginia’s ban troubles

Why was MLK Day the wrong "wrong day?"
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Fact------MLK was a big time gun owner & he strongly believed in both the 2nd amendment & the right to defend one's self and family.

Lost in the saga of Rev. King is the fact that he had applied for - and been denied - a licence to carry a concealed weapon - due to the Jim Crow laws.

It was through his efforts ( and of course others) - that the Jim Crow laws were struck down.

I would have to say that - a day that celebrates a man who so strongly believed all men had the right to help and defend them self - is really the perfect day to celebrate & a gun is the perfect tool for such a celebration.
 
It would appear that the Virginia House has predictably passed the bills and now they move onto the state senate where the vote will be narrow...the Ds only have a two-seat majority there.

In the past two days, I've seen two articles on sweeping gun control bills being pushed in the states of Arizona and Utah as well. I can't believe this is happening.
 
Famas said:
In the past two days, I've seen two articles on sweeping gun control bills being pushed in the states of Arizona and Utah as well. I can't believe this is happening.
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I don't mean or intend to be disrespectful, but there has been a LOT of discussion on all the "gun" boards ever since Trump was elected to the effect that the anti-gun forces were shifting their emphasis from trying for a federal ban to going after the individual states. It was predicted, it was a logical expectation, and now we see it happening. You should not be surprised.

We should not be surprised. It's a not-very-subtle hint that we cannot be complacent, no matter what state we live it. If Bloomberg's millions of $$$ haven't reached your state yet, ... stay tuned. It's coming soon to a state near you, so be prepared for when (not if) your state legislature proposes similar legislation.

And pay attention to details. A few years ago the post-Sandy Hook laws enacted in New York and Connecticut were considered "draconian." But ... Connecticut grandfathered currently-owned "assault weapons" as long as the owners registered them. The registration was free, and a one-time requirement. Now look at Arizona, of all places. They want to charge for the registration, require a new background check, and repeat the registration AND THE BACKGROUND CHECK annually.

Talk about creeping incrementalism! You can almost read their minds: "We got this much in Connecticut and New York, so let's see how much more we can get in [____]."
 
heyjoe said:
i havent seen too many "I'm glad that i live in a free state" posts anymore.
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that's because more and more "free states" have been infected by democrats. Texans think they're safe but that's because they refuse to acknowledge what has already happened in Houston/Harris County, and Austin.
 
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The problems in VA keep coming. Tomorrow, the house of public safety will hear several bad bills. If you can attend, please do so.

From VCDL:
As we warned a few days ago, HB 961, which bans "assault weapons", larger-capacity magazines, suppressors, and more, is up for a committee vote on Friday, February 7, at 8 am.

WE NEED TO STOP HB 961 AND THE OTHER FOUR GUN-CONTROL BILLS FROM MOVING FORWARD:

HB 264, removes getting CHP training from an NRA certified instructor! This will make finding training to get a CHP almost impossible and it will be expensive! It also bans online classes.

HB 600, requires those running family day-homes to lock up their guns, unloaded, with the ammunition locked up separately. Not even a CHP holder can have a loaded, concealed handgun on their person! Another "gun-free zone" that endangers everyone in that home.

HB 1288, takes away gun rights for various MISDEMEANORS.

HB 1499, creates the Virginia Gun Violence Intervention and Prevention Fund. Apparently the only violence that matters is violence that deals with guns.

ACTION ITEM: This is in a big meeting room - let's fill it up!

LOCATION:

General Assembly Building
House Committee Room
900 E Main St.
Richmond, VA 23219

(After passing through the metal detections, make an immediate left and go straight back, past the guard desk and through the glass doors. The meeting room will be on your right. Look for someone handing out GSL stickers.)

Firearms and other weapons are currently prohibited in the General Assembly Building. Folding knives with a metal blade that is less than 3-inches long are allowed.
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you guys are getting bent over bad. however, you guys let the democrats take the state senate, state house of reps, and the gov. mansion so it seems just that this is happening.
 
i havent seen too many "I'm glad that i live in a free state" posts anymore.
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Now that you mention it..... :)

I also haven't seen many posts about "draconian Illinois laws". Heck, I got slammed with that from someone in a 10 round magazine state. Yea, Illinois sure isn't the best state when it comes to gun laws, but just for the fun of it, after Mr. 10 round mag state made his comment, I went upstairs and loaded a dozen or so of my 30 round mags........

Chicago doesn't cover the entire state of Illinois. People tend to forget that. :) But to be fair, it wouldn't surprise me if Bloomburg pays a visit to Illinois soon.
 
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Tons of Bloomberg BS just hit AZ too. We’re suddenly seeing magazine restrictions, assault rifle bans and other bills that would classify just about everything semi automatic as an assault weapon. The Whole country has gone insane and the left won’t quit until everyone is under their absolute control.
 
Famas said:
It would appear that the Virginia House has predictably passed the bills and now they move onto the state senate where the vote will be narrow...the Ds only have a two-seat majority there.

In the past two days, I've seen two articles on sweeping gun control bills being pushed in the states of Arizona and Utah as well. I can't believe this is happening.
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Arizona? How is this happening at all?..Look at the makeup of Arizona's state government..Sec of State is Dem, the rest is GOP...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_party_strength_in_Arizona

Same for Utah...Pushed by whom?
however, you guys let the democrats take the state senate, state house of reps, and the gov. mansion
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what he said...
 
Mike38 said:
But to be fair, it wouldn't surprise me if Bloomburg pays a visit to Illinois soon.
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That has already happened! Who do you think funded all the anti-gun pols that pushed through dealer licensing? Besides donating directly to their political campaigns he also founded and funds anti-gun groups like Moms Demand Action. There's more Bloomberg-sponsored anti-gun bills in the legislature right now.

It's disheartening that so many gun owners have no idea what is happening all around them, we're the frog in the pot slowly being brought to boil.
 
It would be safe to say that Bloomburg is, or very near to, the number one enemy of gun owners. Yet there are thousands of gun owners that vote for the likes of him. We are our own worse enemy.
 
you guys are getting bent over bad. however, you guys let the democrats take the state senate, state house of reps, and the gov. mansion so it seems just that this is happening.
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It's happening in Alabama too. Did not Sen Jones vote to remove Trump?

This happened over the years and was subtle. As soon as the left had all of the pieces in place, they moved in fast and hard. It's now like a smash and grab type robbery...grabbing every piece they can and ramming it through. They are actually rushing it so organized resistance is hampered. There is no/limited debate and the legislators, in particular the delegates, now ignore the pleas for sanity from their constituents. They actually kicked us out of the public community hearing with threat of arrest for trespassing when they passed the weapons/magazine ban. Bloomberg's money and influence is huge here. He is actually attending a gala with the Governor and the legislators tonight in Richmond.

I fear things will get much worse here. Most of the state does not support what those in power (from the population centers) are doing and the anxiety is high. It gets worse by the minute with other bills being push through to ensure the antis stay in power.
 
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yes, the GOP put up a good ole boy to throw a bone to instead of a really viable candidate. he was easily beat by the DNC candidate supported by the white guilt tribe.
 
Update...As of 9 Mar, the following are headed to the Governor's desk. Though not yet signed into law, the Governor and his leftist friends in the House of Delegates and Senate have ignored our calls. We have a long fight ahead of us.

from VCDL:
Bills that have passed both the House and Senate and will now head to the Governor's desk to possibly be signed into law
Duplicate bills are combined:

HB 2, SB 70 - Universal Background Checks. Only applies to bonafide sales, where something is given in exchange for a firearm.
HB 9 - lost/stolen firearms must be reported in 48 hours - time to report increased from 24 to 48 hours.
SB 14 - bans possession of bump stocks. Binary triggers, trigger cranks, etc. are not affected.
SB 64 - makes a group of two or more individuals brandishing with the intent and purpose of intimidating others a felony.
SB 71 - daycare/preschool become gun-free zones. For daycare centers and religious or private preschools, the gun ban only applies during hours of operation.
SB 173 - allows CHP holders to have a stun-weapon in their vehicle while on
HB 264, SB 263 - Eliminates online training and does not affect training from NRA instructors to get a CHP.
HB 421, SB 35 - allows localities to create their own gun laws. Restricted as to where localities can control guns: government buildings, parks, recreation and community centers, permitted events and surrounding roads.
HB 600, SB 593 - Licensed home day facilities require firearms to be stored unloaded and locked up during hours of operation. Localities can make their requirements more strict.
HB 674, SB 240 - Red Flag law - additional protections for search warrants and wrongful accusations were added.
HB 812, SB 69 - One Handgun a Month. Has exception for CHP holders.
HB 1004, SB 479 - protective orders take away gun rights while in effect.
HB 1080 - only those authorized by state law can carry on K-12 grounds. Conservators of the Peace cannot carry on school grounds under this bill.
HB 1083 - class 1 misdemeanor for younger than 14-years-old getting access to a loaded firearm in a reckless manner. Only change to current law is raising the penalty from a Class 3 misdemeanor to a Class 1 misdemeanor.
 
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